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Daishi 10-12-2010 03:56 PM

nah, wet clutch. Far as I know Ducati are the only ones who make production bikes with dry clutches.

I vaguely remember him doing that clutch cover mod some time ago, maybe he installed a dry clutch kit? I dunno. :confused:

Rancidpunk666 10-12-2010 06:09 PM

i think bmw flat twins use dry clutches. at least the vintage ones do.

totensiebush 10-12-2010 07:10 PM

it's just a window in the clutch cover.

and yes, BMW R bikes use dry clutches, as do the longitudinal K bikes.

Daishi 10-12-2010 07:34 PM

One thing I'm kinda curious about you guys - how long until you started riding on a track, or otherwise... aggressively?

A year later and I'm still extremely skittish. I'm always afraid I'll touch a little pebble when I'm turning at any kind of angle and shit will just get fucked. :(
I've been kinda trying to force myself to lean a bit more and such, but then I wonder about things like form. I'm such a squid. :(

DopefishLives 10-12-2010 08:48 PM

I was only aware of Ducati and a handful of BMW's, hence why I was so taken back. I just expected to see the fluid visible inside the cover as a wet clutch.

claffix 10-12-2010 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=Daishi;24541672]One thing I'm kinda curious about you guys - how long until you started riding on a track, or otherwise... aggressively?

A year later and I'm still extremely skittish. I'm always afraid I'll touch a little pebble when I'm turning at any kind of angle and shit will just get fucked. :(
I've been kinda trying to force myself to lean a bit more and such, but then I wonder about things like form. I'm such a squid. :([/QUOTE]

I started riding on a track when I got a bike dedicated to the purpose. It comes pretty easily with full leathers and a bike you aren't worried about crashing.

shmoblar 10-13-2010 09:10 AM

[QUOTE=DopefishLives;24541836]I was only aware of Ducati and a handful of BMW's, hence why I was so taken back. I just expected to see the fluid visible inside the cover as a wet clutch.[/QUOTE]

The fluid level is like 2 inches below the window. It starts getting kicked around noticeably when the clutch basket is spinning over 2k rpm and the bike is held vertical, It looks pretty damn cool when it does that though.

Fiah 10-13-2010 10:06 AM

[QUOTE=Daishi;24541672]One thing I'm kinda curious about you guys - how long until you started riding on a track, or otherwise... aggressively?

A year later and I'm still extremely skittish. I'm always afraid I'll touch a little pebble when I'm turning at any kind of angle and shit will just get fucked. :(
I've been kinda trying to force myself to lean a bit more and such, but then I wonder about things like form. I'm such a squid. :([/QUOTE]

There are a few backroads here that I've explored many a times, so when there's little traffic and conditions are good, I try to improve my cornering. I feel you though, even when I'm pretty damn sure that there is no grit/sand/whatever in that corner, I still only barely push my own limits. The street is just not the right place really, too many poles to wrap yourself around on, too many trucks to slam headfirst into.

Daishi 10-13-2010 11:25 AM

[QUOTE=Fiah;24542349]There are a few backroads here that I've explored many a times, so when there's little traffic and conditions are good, I try to improve my cornering. I feel you though, even when I'm pretty damn sure that there is no grit/sand/whatever in that corner, I still only barely push my own limits. The street is just not the right place really, too many poles to wrap yourself around on, too many trucks to slam headfirst into.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I find myself not worrying [I]too[/I] much about actually just falling/sliding on my ass, but that there might be some car not paying attention behind me, running me over... or I might wander too far into the oncoming lane and get creamed, etc.

I just feel like a vagina when the sides of my rear tire still have the little 'new tire' nubs on them after I've rode for 3,000 miles now. :tard:

Also doesn't help that SE Wisconsin is basically flat as can be, and most of the roads are straight as hell.

I'm thinking I might keep my current bike after I get a new one. I figure that since I won't get much more than I originally paid for it, even after dumping a fair amount of money into it, may as well keep it. Perhaps I'll be more inclined to be a bit more... adventurous when I know it won't be the end of my riding if I bang up my ride. :cool:

claffix 10-13-2010 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=Daishi;24542442]Yeah, I find myself not worrying [I]too[/I] much about actually just falling/sliding on my ass, but that there might be some car not paying attention behind me, running me over... or I might wander too far into the oncoming lane and get creamed, etc.

I just feel like a vagina when the sides of my rear tire still have the little 'new tire' nubs on them after I've rode for 3,000 miles now. :tard:

Also doesn't help that SE Wisconsin is basically flat as can be, and most of the roads are straight as hell.

I'm thinking I might keep my current bike after I get a new one. I figure that since I won't get much more than I originally paid for it, even after dumping a fair amount of money into it, may as well keep it. Perhaps I'll be more inclined to be a bit more... adventurous when I know it won't be the end of my riding if I bang up my ride. :cool:[/QUOTE]

You're not on a race bike, and you're not riding on a race track...why do you need to use 100% of your tire? I think the idea of "chicken strips" on a street bike is pretty dumb. Speed limits, other cars, shitty roads, etc etc. If you look at the edge of a street tire that's been leaned over vs a track bike, you can tell there is a HUGE difference between getting a tire dirty and actually working that tire hard.

[IMG]http://www.uploderx.net/dphrag/DSCN0868612.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.uploderx.net/dphrag/DSCN0869424.jpg[/IMG]

Here are some pics of the rear tire of my Z after a trip through the rocky mountains and to the west coast. Sure the tire has been leaned over, but it was never pushed at that angle. Also notice how flat the middle of that thing is? I had to ride 1200+ miles in more or less a straight line to get to roads when I could do that. It's a Pirelli Diablo Strada too, which is a sport touring type tire. It's not all that soft of rubber and the center is still flat as shit.


Now here's some pics of some take offs from my mini road race bike. Still DOT compound tires, but notice how they are kind of pebbled along the edges, even the fronts? That's putting a tire to work. These tires came off a bike with 1/10th the horsepower and probably a quarter of the weight of the first one.

[IMG]http://www.uploderx.net/dphrag/DSCN0951199.jpg[/IMG]

Daishi 10-13-2010 12:24 PM

aye, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I need to be fucking Rossi in the school zones, but it's more speculation that I'm not totally comfortable with myself or the bike. Just thinking aloud type shit on the forum here. :o

In other news, I do believe my choice of chain lubricant was a poor one... as my chain appears to be degrading rapidly. Looked new when I got the bike, so let's say 4,000 miles later and it's already got a tight spot. :(

claffix 10-13-2010 03:54 PM

Who says you can't have fun on small displacement bikes?

[IMG]http://www.uploderx.net/dphrag/36140_10150280735640624_796035623_15491387_6641105_n288.jpg[/IMG]

totensiebush 10-13-2010 05:51 PM

gonna whore out how my SV currently looks
[img]http://lolinter.net/sv/IMG_0746.JPG[/img]
[img]http://lolinter.net/sv/IMG_0747.JPG[/img]
[img]http://lolinter.net/sv/IMG_0748.JPG[/img]

got the new headlight setup today (off a Madass) but one of em is broken... not sure what I'll end up doing. also have a Spiegler kit that I need to install (meaning handlebars), as well as triples with 2mm more offset, and some R6 calipers.

claffix 10-13-2010 06:00 PM

Hows that rear tire treating you? Pirelli Angel ST right? I really like them as far as treadwear goes but I haven't had a chance to put mine to work in the twisties yet.

totensiebush 10-13-2010 06:14 PM

yep, it's the Angel ST. I've been liking them pretty well so far.


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