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Congress to censor our Interwebz

Hadn't heard much about this until yesterday when I learned Wikipedia would be blacking out their site today for 24 hours in protest. "Wikipedia, Google and hundreds of other online sites in English are blacked out Wednesday in an unprecedented protest against anti-piracy legislation proposed by the U.S. Congress." (http://lakeville.patch.com)

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For over a decade, we have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Right now, the U.S. Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open Internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia.
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SOPA and PIPA would put the burden on website owners to police user-contributed material and call for the unnecessary blocking of entire sites. Small sites won't have sufficient resources to defend themselves. Big media companies may seek to cut off funding sources for their foreign competitors, even if copyright isn't being infringed. Foreign sites will be blacklisted, which means they won't show up in major search engines. SOPA and PIPA would build a framework for future restrictions and suppression.

In a world in which politicians regulate the Internet based on the influence of big money, Wikipedia — and sites like it — cannot survive.

Congress says it's trying to protect the rights of copyright owners, but the "cure" that SOPA and PIPA represent is worse than the disease. SOPA and PIPA are not the answer: they would fatally damage the free and open Internet.
Anybody got the dirty details on the bill Congress is trying to pass? Should we really be concernced? Making website owners liable for content on their sites seems justified to me (and we all know most of us would only be complaining because it would be significantly more difficult to download illegal media) but at the same time it would be giving "big brother" more control over our greatest informational resource.

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Making website owners liable for content on their sites seems justified to me

Yes I think it's perfectly reasonable for Youtube to be liable for every single comment on every single video on their site. And it's also perfectly reasonable to shut down the entire website if one person makes one link to something that somebody might possibly believe could possibly be copyrighted under some definition. </sarcasm>

This bill is well intentioned but horribly written and is entirely dangerous to the idea of free speech. Allowing content creators to arbitrarily shut down entire websites just by saying "ZOMG THEY PIRATE LOL" is completely against all that the internet stands for. Piracy needs to be curbed, but this is not really the answer. Made a video of you creating the next meme? Happened to accidentally be playing Justin Bieber's Baby in the background? Bye Youtube. Even if this wouldn't happen because, well, I have faith that no judge is that stupid, it sets a precedent that could easily shut down a smaller site.
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Yes I think it's perfectly reasonable for Youtube to be liable for every single comment on every single video on their site. And it's also perfectly reasonable to shut down the entire website if one person makes one link to something that somebody might possibly believe could possibly be copyrighted under some definition. </sarcasm>

This bill is well intentioned but horribly written and is entirely dangerous to the idea of free speech. Allowing content creators to arbitrarily shut down entire websites just by saying "ZOMG THEY PIRATE LOL" is completely against all that the internet stands for. Piracy needs to be curbed, but this is not really the answer. Made a video of you creating the next meme? Happened to accidentally be playing Justin Bieber's Baby in the background? Bye Youtube. Even if this wouldn't happen because, well, I have faith that no judge is that stupid, it sets a precedent that could easily shut down a smaller site.

Never underestimate the power of idiots in positions of power. + Realize that government rewards stupidity. = This shit is probably going to pass and I'll probably be shot for calling 1984 a history book. Remember, kids! War is peace! Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength!
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Never underestimate the power of idiots in positions of power. + Realize that government rewards stupidity. = This shit is probably going to pass and I'll probably be shot for calling 1984 a history book. Remember, kids! War is peace! Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength!

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only s and liberals are against artists protecting their intellectual property

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Yes I think it's perfectly reasonable for Youtube to be liable for every single comment on every single video on their site. And it's also perfectly reasonable to shut down the entire website if one person makes one link to something that somebody might possibly believe could possibly be copyrighted under some definition. </sarcasm>

This bill is well intentioned but horribly written and is entirely dangerous to the idea of free speech. Allowing content creators to arbitrarily shut down entire websites just by saying "ZOMG THEY PIRATE LOL" is completely against all that the internet stands for. Piracy needs to be curbed, but this is not really the answer. Made a video of you creating the next meme? Happened to accidentally be playing Justin Bieber's Baby in the background? Bye Youtube. Even if this wouldn't happen because, well, I have faith that no judge is that stupid, it sets a precedent that could easily shut down a smaller site.

Sorry but you are fucking wrong. The bill Never was well intentioned. It is meant to set as law the pricing and distribution standards of a select group of people.

As has been stated in other sopa threads, the next step is the sopa and pipa bills will be tacked onto child porn bills


It makes sure that EA can charge you sixty bucks for a uniform change in one of their hockey games.
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