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How to use wireless LAN card for 'net access, and keep media server on wired LAN

Well folks my problem is this, I cut landline phone, and my DSL went with it. So my upstairs neighbor let me put my wireless router on their cable modem to give me access in exchange for fixing their computer. Problem is, my setup now means I can't see my unRAID media server. To make it simple I drew a picture



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Problem: How to get unRAID server and my computer to "see" each other and talk, when DHCP only assigns IP to the wireless adapter. I do not want upstairs to see my unRAID server. I can manually assign IP, SUBNET, and GATEWAY to unRAID server and to onboard LAN controler on my mobo. Question is, exactly what should the numbers be? WinXP doesn't like it that two ethernet controllers are up- it defaults to the wireless, and ! marks the onboard. Thanks for any help.

I don't want to have to route unRAID traffic through my computer to the router and back to my computer just to watch something. I'm hoping to have my computer and unRAID server "talk" to each other directly.

hopefully this explains it all clear enough.

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Old 09-12-2011, 07:05 AM topcat989 is offline  
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If you can put DD-WRT on your router, that'd give you the ability to use VLANs. Then you can separate your computers from your neighbor's computer while still having internet access. Then enable ICS on your XP computer. Yeah it is double-NAT'ing but it will work so long as you don't need any portfowards.
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If you can put DD-WRT on your router, that'd give you the ability to use VLANs. Then you can separate your computers from your neighbor's computer while still having internet access. Then enable ICS on your XP computer. Yeah it is double-NAT'ing but it will work so long as you don't need any portfowards.

Way too complicated, and I don't want to enable ICS....

Posted this in other places so if I come up with a solution I'll post it here for others to refer to in the future. (I hate it when someone post a problem, it gets solved but the answer isn't posted. Just "thxkbi!" and close thread.)
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No reason windows xp can't use two ethernet controllers, most likely it's complaining because the wired one isn't set up correctly. Once you put in numbers manually it should work fine although I don't remember offhand what numbers would work.
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This is easy, just set your Ethernet connection to a different subnet than your wireless connection.

If your wireless connections default gateway is 192.168.1.1 and your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0, set your Local Area Connection to 192.168.0.1 and your subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, this will make it so they cant talk to each other through your computer because they are on different subnets.
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Got it, I thought you needed internet access for the unraid server. Since that isn't the case, here's how to set both computers up:

Make sure to set an address on your unraid server too. If following Syk0tiK's post, set your unraid server IP address to 192.168.0.2 or something easy to remember.

That should be it. If you cannot see your unraid server by NETBIOS name, add an entry to your c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file:
192.168.0.2 unraidservernamehere

That should get you up and running.
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OK! Here's what I have so far:

Wireless NIC IP = 192.168.1.100 (obtained via DHCP server in router)
(subnet mask= 255.255.255.0)

onboard NIC IP set static to: 192.168.0.1
(subnet mask= 255.255.255.0)

unRAID NIC IP set static to: 192.168.0.2
(subnet mask= 255.255.255.0)

The Good News: if entering 192.168.0.2 directly into browser (chrome) I get to unRAID's webGUI, no problem.

The Bad News: I for the life of me cannot get the disks/shares to show in my main computer. In "my network places" is have nothing, nada, zip. Browsing comes up dry.

What I think might be the problem: When setting the onboard NIC to static IP, there was an entry for pointing to 2 DNS servers. I left it blank, because I didn't know what to put. Since this NIC (and unRAID's) are seperated from my wireless side, I don't think it can access the wireless router's DNS servers info.

Am I on the right track here? My unraid server's name is the default \\tower

entering that in "set up new network connection/place" does nothing, as well as entering the direct IP of 192.168.0.2

entering direct IP of 192.168.0.2 into chrome gets me the unRAID web GUI, but nothing else. Help..

(and thanks for the replies so far!)
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OK! Here's what I have so far:

Wireless NIC IP = 192.168.1.100 (obtained via DHCP server in router)
(subnet mask= 255.255.255.0)

onboard NIC IP set static to: 192.168.0.1
(subnet mask= 255.255.255.0)

unRAID NIC IP set static to: 192.168.0.2
(subnet mask= 255.255.255.0)

The Good News: if entering 192.168.0.2 directly into browser (chrome) I get to unRAID's webGUI, no problem.

The Bad News: I for the life of me cannot get the disks/shares to show in my main computer. In "my network places" is have nothing, nada, zip. Browsing comes up dry.

SOLVED! All I needed to do was enter the tower address (\\tower) into exploer's address bar and all the shares popped up.

Thanks for the help fellas, closing thread now..
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SOLVED! All I needed to do was enter the tower address (\\tower) into exploer's address bar and all the shares popped up.

You may actually be connecting to the wireless NIC when doing \\tower
This assumes all PC's on your network are also wireless for internet access.
In that case, you would be better off to use the \\ip for the connection.

Seeing your layout though, I think you're ok in this case Just something to think about though with more wireless computers.
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You may actually be connecting to the wireless NIC when doing \\tower
This assumes all PC's on your network are also wireless for internet access.
In that case, you would be better off to use the \\ip for the connection.

Seeing your layout though, I think you're ok in this case Just something to think about though with more wireless computers.

agree, I always access network shares by IP address. There are just too many problems with Windows and NETBIOS names on a workgroup unless you have a Server OS to act as the master browser.

EDIT: Although if all OS's are Windows 7 or Unix/Linux I havent had problems with NETBIOS. Its always a problems with WinXP and Vista though.
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You can also try changing the network order. It does not affect internet browsing, but for inhouse network, it can fix few problems.
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