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dear republicans,

there are no bad guys. there are no good guys. there are only winners and losers. the government will never cut your taxes enough to move your mom and dad from suburbia to beverly hills, so they'll never buy you that ferrari. no one gives a fuck about your book full of religious fairy tales or your guns, and obama won't come for either of them. all of you who lost 70% of your 401k while you were reading the morning limbaugh talking point email aren't the winners, and the old white geezer winning instead of the black guy winning wouldn't have changed a fucking thing.

dear democrats,

there are no bad guys. there are no good guys. there are only winners and losers. the government will never raid the coffers of the hedge funds and insurance companies and send you all checks. obama will never bump all the CEOs of the world down to 30k a year. nor will he turn control of chrysler or GM over to your union boss. it's all posturing. none of the bullshit those above mentioned republicans are so busy fist pounding over will ever happen. so you aren't really getting back at them, and they aren't really getting beaten by you. and if you lost 70% of your 401k while you were comparing honda civic and toyota prius reviews dug up on google over your morning bran muffin, kerry beating bush wouldn't have changed a fucking thing.

dear both of you,

see the point above about winners and losers? you're never going to be the winner. you both talk about "if only the thomas jeffersons and ben franklins could see what the US has become". as if they're rolling over in their graves. honestly? if they could see what we've evolved into, they'd be pretty damn proud of themselves. they accomplished exactly what they set out to do. they created the illusion of popular control, with real power reserved for anyone but the popular majority.

you wanna hear the facts for once? here's a synopsis...

1) your parents pay for your third world high school education with their local tax dollars, all while their state tax dollars pay for the universities you're about to wind up in
2) you borrow tens, if not hundreds of thousands so that you can walk into the university that you paid for already via said tax dollars, and proceed to get a half assed post secondary education which allows you to go from junior mailroom clerk to senior mailroom engineer for your 100k plus interest.
3) you pay a third of the money you make toward the new university that your kids will have to pay to walk through the front door of, a third toward the student loans you had to take out to walk through the door of the university you paid for twice, and the other third you give to a mutual fund manager that you've never even seen a picture of, much less met, who locks it up for months at a time like a CD, only he doesn't pay you anything to have your money locked up like any respectable bank has to do for the CD.
4) when 2/3 of your remaining third that you have given to the mutual fund manager disappears, you call it a buying opportunity! or blame the black guy. or blame the white guy. meanwhile you keep burying those bibles or shopping for that prius.
5) the small amount leftover you pay to social security and medicare, because paying for the 401k and paying for the health insurance wasn't enough, you should pay twice for those too.

and at the end of the day, over your 30 years of 50-60 hour weeks you've paid for the universites twice, you've paid the mutual fund manager to lose your money, you've paid the gun manufacturer to further your small ego, you've paid the plastic battery car manufacturer so you can feel better about your lawn, you've paid the interest on the credit cards and the student loans, you've paid for the house twice, and the health care twice, and the retirement fund twice.

and when you're greeting people at wal-mart because you spent alot more time paying than you did learning, earning, or saving, you think to yourself...

that fuckin' obama is comin to get my guns

that's when you know that whichever side you were, are, or plan to be on, you're not going to be the winner.

cliff's notes: stupid forum, lock&B7

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You think anyone is here because they don't realize this?

Pit denizens are here because they enjoy being polemicists. It's more fun.
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But the thing is Obama is going to take away guns, he already has millions of members in the Obama Youth Death Squads primed, ready to strike at a moment's notice.
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But the thing is Obama is going to take away guns, he already has millions of members in the Obama Youth Death Squads primed, ready to strike at a moment's notice.
I think it's great that he energized today's youth to get organized and involved in the community, even when it means they will kill all malcontents on sight.

Edit: Or put them into FEMA camps.
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you both talk about "if only the thomas jeffersons and ben franklins could see what the US has become". as if they're rolling over in their graves. honestly? if they could see what we've evolved into, they'd be pretty damn proud of themselves. they accomplished exactly what they set out to do. they created the illusion of popular control, with real power reserved for anyone but the popular majority.

Fuck the founding fathers. I couldnt give a damn what a bunch of rich, slave-owning white men think. If they really cared about "all men are created equal" they never acted like it. So long as they preserve the status quo of the time, right?

Fuck the founding fathers.
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Fuck the founding fathers. I couldnt give a damn what a bunch of rich, slave-owning white men think. If they really cared about "all men are created equal" they never acted like it. So long as they preserve the status quo of the time, right?

Fuck the founding fathers.

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Things are set up in the fashion you described, or at least something very similar to it. Some people, believe it or not, know this and are fine with it. Most probably dont acknowledge it. Others do acknowledge it and therefore choose to live outside the system. You dont have to take out loans to go to college (community college + scholarships). Hell, you dont have to go to college at all. You dont have to run up your credit card and spend your entire life paying interest to banks while buying more and more shit.
In fact, you dont have to do anything thats in your post. It just so happens that the society we live in encourages it.
Well sir, you can make your own decisions.

Now, to get something straight, are you also a conspiracy theorist? Any of them, that is, not necessarily one or the other.
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Fuck the founding fathers. I couldnt give a damn what a bunch of rich, slave-owning white men think. If they really cared about "all men are created equal" they never acted like it. So long as they preserve the status quo of the time, right?

Fuck the founding fathers.
I'm always perplexed by this kind of thinking. No one here says slavery was okay (except maybe Sam Farber), but completely writing off the actions of historical figures due to their lifestyles or personal choices will always get me. The fact is, if you look deep enough into any historical figure, you're going to find some skeevy shit. Ghandi used to be lawyer that fought against black rights in Africa -- should history ignore the work he did later in life? Martin Luthor King Jr. plagarized a huge amount of his essays and speeches from other men and cheated on his wife -- does that mean his pleas for the recognition and respect for humanity had no truth? The rhetoric and logic we base western thought on comes from Greek philosophers that did not think women were human. Does that make our present system a lie?

I'm not saying these things should be swept under the table -- hell, I wish schools were more honest about how much of an asshole Thomas Edison really was -- or even that all these actions I stated are comparable to slavery. But when people go, "Fuck that guy and all his revolutionary thoughts and accomplishments, he was a sexist/racist/whatever," it really gets under my skin, regardless if their trolling or not.
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Fuck the founding fathers. I couldnt give a damn what a bunch of rich, slave-owning white men think. If they really cared about "all men are created equal" they never acted like it. So long as they preserve the status quo of the time, right?

Fuck the founding fathers.

you don't, um, read a lot do you
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Things are set up in the fashion you described, or at least something very similar to it. Some people, believe it or not, know this and are fine with it. Most probably dont acknowledge it. Others do acknowledge it and therefore choose to live outside the system. You dont have to take out loans to go to college (community college + scholarships). Hell, you dont have to go to college at all. You dont have to run up your credit card and spend your entire life paying interest to banks while buying more and more shit.
In fact, you dont have to do anything thats in your post. It just so happens that the society we live in encourages it.
Well sir, you can make your own decisions.

Now, to get something straight, are you also a conspiracy theorist? Any of them, that is, not necessarily one or the other.

nope.

i consider conspiracy theorists lower than even the die hard party supporters.

and no you don't have to do those things, and those things are just the surface of a wider situation, the only reason for pointing out the silliness of the educational system is most of the posters on this forum are 19-23 year olds.

it's a culture that's created at that point though, with the promise being "you can have whatever you want, as long as you promise to pay more money than you even have yet, here sign on the bottom line".

and if any member of the middle class that signs up for that spends one waking minute arguing about politics, they spent one minute too much.

as stated, the republicans will never lower your taxes enough to make you rich, and the democrats will never tax the other guy enough to make you rich.

nothing will change.
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nope.

i consider conspiracy theorists lower than even the die hard party supporters.

and no you don't have to do those things, and those things are just the surface of a wider situation, the only reason for pointing out the silliness of the educational system is most of the posters on this forum are 19-23 year olds.

it's a culture that's created at that point though, with the promise being "you can have whatever you want, as long as you promise to pay more money than you even have yet, here sign on the bottom line".

and if any member of the middle class that signs up for that spends one waking minute arguing about politics, they spent one minute too much.

as stated, the republicans will never lower your taxes enough to make you rich, and the democrats will never tax the other guy enough to make you rich.

nothing will change.
And what sort of change do you wish to see? And what goals have you set up for yourself so that you as an individual can be moving in the right direction?

Out with capitalism, is that it? What else?

Also how old are you and what do you do for a living?
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that fuckin' obama is comin to get my guns
He figured out that would be too difficult and politically touchy....they're going after ammo instead. Anyone who has tried to buy any lately knows what I'm talking about...of course the criminals getting theirs on the black market don't have any trouble finding what they need.
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Some people, believe it or not, know this and are fine with it.


I am OK with it
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And what sort of change do you wish to see? And what goals have you set up for yourself so that you as an individual can be moving in the right direction?

Out with capitalism, is that it? What else?

Also how old are you and what do you do for a living?

i don't necessarily wish to see any change. i'm 32 and worth 3.5-4 mil. prior to that i worked for a large multi national corporation just like so many others in their late 20s-30s.

i've seen both sides of the fence, and i can say with absolute certainty that even if little green men from fucking mars win the next round of elections, nothing will change and no one will wake up one morning and magically find themselves on the greener side of that fence.

the system is designed for the middle class to sign everything away that they earn, in exchange for a small house and a couple of cars.

and seeing that middle class argue about who wins elections as if it really matters to them, when roughly 90% of the money they earn is accounted for by someone else before they even realize that they've earned it, is pretty mind numbing.

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He figured out that would be too difficult and politically touchy....they're going after ammo instead. Anyone who has tried to buy any lately knows what I'm talking about...of course the criminals getting theirs on the black market don't have any trouble finding what they need.

you're a perfect example of the idiots i'm talking about. material and tool prices are at 5 year lows at least, if not all time lows. and your precious ammunition companies follow up record quarters with layoffs why? because you're just ignorant enough to believe it, that's why. it's called price fixing and market manipulation. and you bought it hook line and sinker.

care to explain why the same .45 pistol they've made since WW2 costs 3x as much as a carburetor for a mid 60s sports car?

lemme guess, because obama is coming to shut them down?

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