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mixing cement question

I am planning on making a decorative walkway in the back of the house. I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to it, a couple of hours a week probably. I was thinking of using a decorative mold and adding color to the cement. My biggest problem is mixing it. Before I just used a wheelbarrow and a shovel. I don't want to spend the money renting a cement mixer, since I won't have a full day to dedicate to it. Is there a better solution?
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if you don't have a wheel barrow, use a bucket and mix it a little bit at a time. But be exact with your measurements so it's all the same.

The problem with doing coloured cement over a period of time and multiple pours is getting consistancy in the colour.

I would try to pour it in one shot.
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With small batches it is possible to get consistent colour (I've done it for a canoe) you just have to be very careful with your measurements, we did everything to 1g accuracy but that isn't really possible for a walkway. Just try to be as careful as possible with the measurements. If you can do it in one big pour so its all the same.
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I am planning on making a decorative walkway in the back of the house. I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to it, a couple of hours a week probably. I was thinking of using a decorative mold and adding color to the cement. My biggest problem is mixing it. Before I just used a wheelbarrow and a shovel. I don't want to spend the money renting a cement mixer, since I won't have a full day to dedicate to it. Is there a better solution?

put the sand/cement/water on the floor
mix with shovel
profit.
or bucket yeah .
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put the sand/cement/water on the floor
mix with shovel
profit.
or bucket yeah .
pretty much. I mix cement at work everyday (although it gets buried) but put he cement in a wheelbarrow, put the same amount of sand/rock in, and add water until good. It's pretty easy. Just make sure you mix through and through so that there is no dry mix in the bottom.
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With small batches it is possible to get consistent colour (I've done it for a canoe) you just have to be very careful with your measurements, we did everything to 1g accuracy but that isn't really possible for a walkway. Just try to be as careful as possible with the measurements. If you can do it in one big pour so its all the same.

Interesting.

Things are different here in Canada eh. If you made a cement canoe and launched it in Canadian water, it would surely sink. In fact, the mobsters use it to make shoes for people they want to drown.
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actually, maybe your best bet is to just pour it and use a coloured sealer or grout. Then just parge over top. This is how they do some high end concrete steps.
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Home Depot sells mixing troughs, but if you want colored concrete there are 2 options:
1. Color packs that mix with the wet concrete but as mentioned there are color variances not only between brands but between batches too. If you're going this route, you'll need to do everything in 1 swoop.

2. Acid washes/concrete stains: A concrete company or a place like White Cap sell acid-based concrete washes that imparts a colored patina to CURED concrete. Behr(I don't usually recommend them but their floor stuff save for their 1K "epoxy" garage floor paint is quite decent) sells a transparent concrete stain. Use this after the concrete has had time to properly cure - concrete by its very nature is alkaline and efflorescence will eat anything it touches. 30 days is the minimum, and then etch the surface with a hydrochloric acid/water mix to wash away any traces of efflorescence and prep the surface.
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