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To be fair, I'm not sure they could have predicted that outcome. .
While I guess this is tecniquely true, I am willing to bet anything that the statistical probability of being raped in prison(particularly for a younger inmate) is well above what the average person would be willing to admit. ANY prison rape is unacceptable. Offenders should be immediately isolated for the remainder of their terms.

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The best solution to that problem would be to separate violent offenders and non-violent ones, which should be pretty easy to implement.

I agree, and the fact that it is not so is appalling.

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It's easy to say money spent on A could be used instead to fix B, but it's rarely that simple. Also, prisons are typically a state matter anyway.

Good point, I still feel that federal money that is currently going to help people outside the country should first be used to help with issues within the country tho. Even issues that are typically state issues. If we have no problem giving aid to forign nations under whatever conditions we currently do there should be no issue in giving some % of the money to the states based on inmate population/crime rate/something someone smarter than I might come up with, and dictate that this specific money HAS to be spent within the prison system.
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But if lifetime incarceration achieves this, what's the point?

A finality.
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hey if both the kid and the adult like it

whats the issue?

you guys ever see that movie mysterious skin... eh
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isnt life in prison still worse than a quick painless death?

It is, but it's not fair to the taxpayers to have to pay for some worthless piece of shit to have 3 meals a day and cable television.

Personally I think we're too easy on the death penalty. Lethal injection? What the fuck. I guarantee if we brought back firing squads, beheadings, and hanging, the percentage of crimes that carry capital punishment as recourse would drop drastically.
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hey if both the kid and the adult like it

whats the issue?

you guys ever see that movie mysterious skin... eh

The furry zoophilia thing is in the margin but now you're just pushing it

don't ruin decent trolling with this stuff
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It is, but it's not fair to the taxpayers to have to pay for some worthless piece of shit to have 3 meals a day and cable television.

And your alternative to three meals a day is what? Starvation? It's not like these guys are getting candlelit filet mignon dinners everyday, you know.

As for cable television, I'm sure you're unaware that many prison guards consider television the greatest babysitter available to them. It keeps the prisoners docile and content making their job a lot easier and safer. It also gives guards the ability to use television as a special treat in order to reward good prisoners; thus, promoting better behavior within the complex.

The same can also be said for weight lifting equipment. It tires prisoners out, which is great news for guards, and gives them some semblance of a daily routine.

Would you also be against having air conditioning in prisons? Think about that one for awhile and then get back to me with your answer.
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It is, but it's not fair to the taxpayers to have to pay for some worthless piece of shit to have 3 meals a day and cable television.

Personally I think we're too easy on the death penalty. Lethal injection? What the fuck. I guarantee if we brought back firing squads, beheadings, and hanging, the percentage of crimes that carry capital punishment as recourse would drop drastically.

I'd like to see you grow a set and talk about it like this when you're the one dropping the axe, with the always present possibility that you might have killed someone that was simply shit out of luck and innocent
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I'd like to see you grow a set and talk about it like this when you're the one dropping the axe, with the always present possibility that you might have killed someone that was simply shit out of luck and innocent

There is only one thing that needs to be asked when someone supports the death penalty, though no one here has actually responded to it.

Anytime you utilize the death penalty you will eventually execute an innocent. This is not debatable.

Are you willing to be that person?
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There is only one thing that needs to be asked when someone supports the death penalty, though no one here has actually responded to it.

Anytime you utilize the death penalty you will eventually execute an innocent. This is not debatable.

Are you willing to be that person?
Exactly.

Now, I don't support DP either way, but I think there's something definitely fucking wrong with the (western) world when people are so hell bent on vengeance they're willing to go to such lenghts. How people who can actually read and live free support such things, I'll never understand.
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hey if both the kid and the adult like it

whats the issue?

you guys ever see that movie mysterious skin... eh

So... his 8-y/o stepdaughter enjoyed being raped....?
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So... his 8-y/o stepdaughter enjoyed being raped....?

To be fair, I believe he was addressing statutory rape.

edit. never mind, I just looked up the line for the movie he referenced.
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So... his 8-y/o stepdaughter enjoyed being raped....?

did you ever see that movie mysterious skin
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The US is quite the barbaric and primitive state in regards to rest of the civilized world. Such a shame.

edit: In matters of criminal law, anyway.
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The US is quite the barbaric and primitive state in regards to rest of the civilized world. Such a shame.

edit: In matters of criminal law, anyway.

ya your country is better than ours
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I can assure you that the statistical probability of a prisoner serving a life sentence in a high-security facility and escaping is a complete non-issue to anyone that researches in the field of corrections.

It's a sensationalist argument that has absolutely no bearing in the real world.

What about Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden, to my knowledge they are both free and walking around the country despite having killed 5 people and injuring many others in a planned ambush.
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