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and well, he isn't going to get past 10% even if fucking hell froze over. Thing is though, I'm sure the notepads are already being crammed up with voting fraud threads.

Ron Paul is the new scientology. People like Willy donate large amounts of money thinking a big change is going to be coming, but in reality nothing is going to happen.
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After everything he's been saying about the importance of Florida, I'm curious how he'll respond if he doesn't do very well
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Ron Paul is the new scientology. People like Willy donate large amounts of money thinking a big change is going to be coming, but in reality nothing is going to happen.

The movement is more than Ron Paul. It will not die with this election. Constitutionalism is coming back.
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Ron Paul is the new scientology. People like Willy donate large amounts of money thinking a big change is going to be coming, but in reality nothing is going to happen.
You critcize what you don't understand.
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Ron Paul is the new scientology. People like Willy donate large amounts of money thinking a big change is going to be coming, but in reality nothing is going to happen.

You havent considered the ramifications if Ron Paul and our constitution loses and takes another loss by braindead bought and sold politicians and thier cattle like you have you?

Think real hard now. We are legion. The people have been playing nice and taking the high road and honoring the process despite a cold busted paid for media and blatantly illegal and unconstitutional "measures" for quite a while now.

We will have our constitution, our rule of law, habeas corpus, geneva convention ethics, and sanity back, and incase you havent taken notice we are motivated, any 1 constitutionalist is worth 10x other politicians sellout.


You should seriously consider if whatever item youre deeming of higher value than the constitution via another candidate is also worth the logical conclusion one can arrive at when considering there are legions who will not live without the rule of law period.

Id be willing to bet many police are also consitutionalists... Ive met many myself.

John Titor tells me to let you know you better consider what youre saying the future isnt written in stone it can be changed, so support a brighter future as only the law can guarantee and protect freedom or guarantee yourself a future none of us want, but many of us are fully prepared not to live without. So support Ron Paul and the constitution, its the smart thing to do.
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The movement is more than Ron Paul. It will not die with this election. Constitutionalism is coming back.

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You critcize what you don't understand.

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You havent considered the ramifications if Ron Paul and our constitution loses and takes another loss by braindead bought and sold politicians and thier cattle like you have you?

Think real hard now. We are legion. The people have been playing nice and taking the high road and honoring the process despite a cold busted paid for media and blatantly illegal and unconstitutional "measures" for quite a while now.

We will have our constitution, our rule of law, habeas corpus, geneva convention ethics, and sanity back, and incase you havent taken notice we are motivated, any 1 constitutionalist is worth 10x other politicians sellout.


You should seriously consider if whatever item youre deeming of higher value than the constitution via another candidate is also worth the logical conclusion one can arrive at when considering there are legions who will not live without the rule of law period.

Id be willing to bet many police are also consitutionalists... Ive met many myself.

John Titor tells me to let you know you better consider what youre saying the future isnt written in stone it can be changed, so support a brighter future as only the law can guarantee and protect freedom or guarantee yourself a future none of us want, but many of us are fully prepared not to live without. So support Ron Paul and the constitution, its the smart thing to do.

This is what I get for trying to be funny .
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The movement is more than Ron Paul. It will not die with this election. Constitutionalism is coming back.

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She'd get quite the giggle from you people too
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Actually it was a king when your constitution came into existence. But whatever.
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This is what I get for trying to be funny .
Unfortunately youve never evoked so much as a giggle from me, but now that I know you try Ill keep that in mind.
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God you are so fucking ignorant to politics, let alone history...

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The movement is more than Ron Paul. It will not die with this election. Constitutionalism is coming back.

Do you all really feel the Constitution is the solution to the countries misfit existence of turmoil with other nations and internal struggles toward equality and freedom thus far? The document was forged by the leaders in an old world who wanted freedom and spoke of it for ALL PEOPLE but only upheld it for men, white men of Christian origin. The Constitution holds some good values and the intention may have been good but is in need of reform as much as people hate change it as they consider it the foundation of America. The foundation of America are it's people, and the people today are vastly different from those two-hundred and thirty years ago. We are no longer a nation of one God, indivisible. We are among a nation of people who hold God, Gods or no God at all and have every right in that choice or ideal. Our government upholds those rights to a degree but the backbone and foundation are on Christian ideals and beliefs which hold us back as a whole with a mentality that isn't easily overcome as your lovely Ron Paul has proven.
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I'll agree with you on the idea that America's spirituality has changed, but I really hate the idea that the constitution is this "living document" that changes with its people. It doesn't matter that the Constitution was created by a bunch of white guys on Judeo-Christian beliefs (which, by the way, still called for separation of church and state). The purpose of the Constitution is that it states that this is not a country ruled by king, religion, or even free-for-all democracy. The Constitution states that this is a country ruled by PRINCIPLES and LAW. Even if the leaders of the old or new world do not extend these freedoms to everyone equally, then all that shows is they are breaking the law of the land rather than serving themselves or some other group.

So no, the foundation of America isn't its people. Our fads and culture may change, but our core beliefs of human rights, freedoms, and reason don't. If they do change, then it's not 100% America anymore. It's something else that feeds on quick public appeasal or fear, and that never works out in the long term.
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I'll agree with you on the idea that America's spirituality has changed, but I really hate the idea that the constitution is this "living document" that changes with its people. It doesn't matter that the Constitution was created by a bunch of white guys on Judeo-Christian beliefs (which, by the way, still called for separation of church and state). The purpose of the Constitution is that it states that this is not a country ruled by king, religion, or even free-for-all democracy. The Constitution states that this is a country ruled by PRINCIPLES and LAW. Even if the leaders of the old or new world do not extend these freedoms to everyone equally, then all that shows is they are breaking the law of the land rather than serving themselves or some other group.

So no, the foundation of America isn't its people. Our fads and culture may change, but our core beliefs of human rights, freedoms, and reason don't. If they do change, then it's not 100% America anymore. It's something else that feeds on quick public appeasal or fear, and that never works out in the long term.

The culture and core beliefs of human rights at the time of the Constitutions inception where that black folk were worth nothing more than as servants and no one pushed for a change until late in the 1800's. A group of individuals that opposed homosexuality and freedom to choose your partner with no bias to sexuality. Despite how there is consideration for 'separation of church and state' it isn't upheld, presently and it wasn't upheld then when everything was labeled with 'In God We Trust'.

If we do not allow for accommodation to our changing culture we'll never overcome the limitations we meet daily in our ever growing diversity, we'll never accept and respect people's right to choose their partners and our fundamentals will be ruled by a single religion no matter how much someone tries to say they are not. America is no longer the rebellions of England overzealous rule it was in in the 1700's, we are now a culture of many origins and that should be acknowledged beyond just saying so but actually operating under the ideals of such.

We need to evolve and move forward and stop hindering our nation by clinging to old ideas and outdated considerations for the people. There is some good in the constitution, such as free speech and they should be upheld but there is much that could be improved upon to integrate modern culture and rights.
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