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Marketability has as much to do with winning as policy positions. The television is what destroyed our system.

No, it was always this bad. Occasionally through accidents of history or enough public organization by people who actually have the publics interests at heart you see leaders working for the peoples interests.
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This is just the same incredibly lazy explanation. If you seriously looking at the state of the United States and concluding the system is working your analysis is critically flawed. We have huge problems that are not being addressed by anyone in the establishment media or government. Politicians may very well get elected because their opinions most resemble that of the average voter, but the publics opinions are massively shaped by the media, and in either case they certainly do not have the voters interests at heart.

heres where youre getting confused. the point of government isnt to solve people's problems for them. its just a way to bind society together for common defense. and if shit goes wrong and we need a scapegoat, BAM we elected the perfect candidates.
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If you look at the history of the US it's quite clear that people are perfectly willing to elect people who don't have anymore than a superficial interest in the welfare of the average person and are even actively working against it. To use Reagan as an example, many of his policies were devastating in the long run to the American middle and poor classes and his foreign policy was despicable. Yet he remains massively popular with conservatives and even many centrist Americans.


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Are you serious? Regan's tax reduction policies created more cash flow into the federal government. By letting business and the general population keep enough money to generate more wealth and infrastructure. Even with the democrat controlled congress spending a buck and a quarter more for every extra buck the policies brought in.

Regans foreign policy caused the collapse of soviet control over East Germany and the soviet satellite country breakup.

The SDI programs that were commissioned helped lead to the former and gave us massive amounts of pure research knowledge. Leading to breakthroughs in medicine. Computer science, semiconductor processes etc etc. Look up FEL if you want an example. Which is a direct SDI spinoff.

And all morons like you can do is spout the party line that the oh so unbiased media spewed at the time. Go on, use the buzz words you were taught. You know you want to. They'll make you feel all better.
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Look up FEL if you want an example. Which is a direct SDI spinoff..

Maybe you're talking about a different FEL, but free electron lasers were invented before Reagan even got elected.
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Are you serious? Regan's tax reduction policies created more cash flow into the federal government. By letting business and the general population keep enough money to generate more wealth and infrastructure. Even with the democrat controlled congress spending a buck and a quarter more for every extra buck the policies brought in.

Regans foreign policy caused the collapse of soviet control over East Germany and the soviet satellite country breakup.

The SDI programs that were commissioned helped lead to the former and gave us massive amounts of pure research knowledge. Leading to breakthroughs in medicine. Computer science, semiconductor processes etc etc. Look up FEL if you want an example. Which is a direct SDI spinoff.

And all morons like you can do is spout the party line that the oh so unbiased media spewed at the time. Go on, use the buzz words you were taught. You know you want to. They'll make you feel all better.

lolololol

every time this moron peeks out of his turtle shell it's oh so hilarious.

accusing other people of "party line" after a limbaugh copy pasta? classic.

the highest deficits in the modern era as a percentage of GDP are from reagan and bush sr. trickle down economics is a lie.

as big a history buff as an economics buff eh?

the soviet collapse had nothing, zip, notta to do with reagan or his SDI scam. first off, free electron lasers you're referring to? they were invented at stanford university. not at pat robertson's university.

as for the soviets, the chinese deserve more credit for their failure than anyone else does. the russians and chinese were tense allies for a few years after the chinese went communist, but that started to die with the soviet support of the vietnamese invasion of cambodia, and successive chinese invasion of vietnam in retribution against the soviets. that was followed by endless border disputes, and the invasion of afghanistan was the last straw (and btw, the supporting of the origins of the taliban against the soviets, which republicans seem to love to take credit for for some reason, started under carter via pakistan, not under reagan). when you add up decades of economic decline, fear of the chinese, chernobyl, afghanistan, etc....the satellite states started to revolt. none of which had anything to do with reagan or bush, or, laughably, SDI.
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What limbaugh copy paste? You stupid lying sack of shit motif is showing again.
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the soviet collapse had nothing, zip, notta to do with reagan or his SDI scam. first off, free electron lasers you're referring to? they were invented at stanford university. not at pat robertson's university.

Are you fucking retarded? Because of SDI, the Soviets were forced to spend money on their military that their economy couldn't afford. One of the reasons the Americans were able to win the Cold War is specifically because they were able to out spend the Soviets. Most people with an IQ over 6 recognize SDI was a contributing factor to that. To suggest that SDI had absolutely no effect on the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union is misguided at best. If nothing else, it at least accelerated the timeline.
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also, expect cigarettes to rise in price very quickly.

no more 20 packs for $2.99 or whatever they cost over there at the moment. they'll probably double in price as the state begins to treat people who're suffering from smoking-related problems and needs a way to recoup the losses.

cigs are the first thing they'll tax the fuck out of like here in england where a pack of 20 costs about 5.50 ($8.89).
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also, expect cigarettes to rise in price very quickly.

no more 20 packs for $2.99 or whatever they cost over there at the moment. they'll probably double in price as the state begins to treat people who're suffering from smoking-related problems and needs a way to recoup the losses.

cigs are the first thing they'll tax the fuck out of like here in england where a pack of 20 costs about 5.50 ($8.89).

I pay $9.50 in NYC so bite me
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Are you fucking retarded? Because of SDI, the Soviets were forced to spend money on their military that their economy couldn't afford. One of the reasons the Americans were able to win the Cold War is specifically because they were able to out spend the Soviets. Most people with an IQ over 6 recognize SDI was a contributing factor to that. To suggest that SDI had absolutely no effect on the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union is misguided at best. If nothing else, it at least accelerated the timeline.

NO NO NO!!!! Any child with a double digit IQ knows it's because Jimmy Carter smiled at them and told them how nice we were. It just took 20+ years for the Dazzle Teeth effect to wear off. It would have lasted longer if Shrub had not had his brother steal the election for him. /Spayed
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Are you fucking retarded? Because of SDI, the Soviets were forced to spend money on their military that their economy couldn't afford. One of the reasons the Americans were able to win the Cold War is specifically because they were able to out spend the Soviets. Most people with an IQ over 6 recognize SDI was a contributing factor to that. To suggest that SDI had absolutely no effect on the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union is misguided at best. If nothing else, it at least accelerated the timeline.

watch less faux, get more facts.

the soviets were far more concerned with china than any other western country. thus failed projects of western countries barely blip the radar.
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watch less faux, get more facts.

the soviets were far more concerned with china than any other western country. thus failed projects of western countries barely blip the radar.

yeah they built super sub after super sub to take on the Awsome chinese navy.
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NO NO NO!!!! Any child with a double digit IQ knows it's because Jimmy Carter smiled at them and told them how nice we were. It just took 20+ years for the Dazzle Teeth effect to wear off. It would have lasted longer if Shrub had not had his brother steal the election for him. /Spayed

He did have a killer smile man, that's why he won the Nobel Peace Prize, just like Barack Obama, who's smile was also so effective the Norwegians decided to give it to him after a week and a half in office, instead of losers that didn't deserve it like the Chinese students who protested for democracy and freedom.
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watch less faux, get more facts.

the soviets were far more concerned with china than any other western country. thus failed projects of western countries barely blip the radar.

Because the arms race had absolutely no effect on the cold war .

The strain on the Soviet economy due to military expendatures beyond what they could afford is a well documented fact. SDI only added to that weapons gap and the strain on the Soviet economy. The least you can do is admit that. Watch Dr. Strangelove and pay attention to the "gaps" they keep referring to. I know you hate to admit it because you think people never have a need to fight, but the cold war was all about a one-upmanship military pissing match that ended up costing both countries an assload of money. To say this wasn't a contributing factor to the Soviet Union's ultimate collapse is a statement of sheer stupidity. You can be a hippie tree hugger all you want, but that wont change reality.
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