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Recommend me a PHP and mySQL book to read!

Anything for a newbie with little to no programming knowledge? I'm talking a database class right now, we're mainly using Access. If anyone can help me out, It would be greatly appreciated. I'm about to go down to Borders in a minute to go check out some books.
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Old 03-20-2005, 05:33 PM Noct is offline  
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Just flip through a couple and see which look good to you. It mostly depends on how you want to learn it.

I can't help you much though, I learned it mostly online.
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im a firm believer in that anyone with basic computer using skills can learn php in 1 hour with no programming experince at all.
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im a firm believer in that anyone with basic computer using skills can learn php in 1 hour with no programming experince at all.

PHP is one of those things that takes only a few minutes to learn, but years to really master.

Sure, you can learn to do basic stuff in an hour, but there's still plenty there to learn. I've been working on PHP based websites for years, and I still learn new things all the time.

I have a book called "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Luke Welling and Laura Thompson. It's not so hot as a reference book, but if you're not a seasoned programmer, it would be pretty useful as a learning tool.
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"PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Web Sites: Visual QuickPro Guide" by Larry Ulman. Very good book with lots of solid, relevant advice and examples. I wouldn't rely on it as a reference either, but honestly, after reading it I've been able to make do with the MySQL/PHP online materials.
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but honestly, after reading it I've been able to make do with the MySQL/PHP online materials.

This is especially true, considering that versions of both change pretty fast, and it would be impossible to keep a book up to date.

It would be nice if they had an interface similar to MSDN's, though. MSDN's online reference is the shit.
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im a firm believer in that anyone with basic computer using skills can learn php in 1 hour with no programming experince at all.
i'll wager $500 if you can get your mom to write a simple guestbook in 1 hour. The best she may be able to regurgitate is that variables begin with a dollar sign.
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i'll wager $500 if you can get your mom to write a simple guestbook in 1 hour. The best she may be able to regurgitate is that variables begin with a dollar sign.
my mother doesnt have close to basic skills needed to do this. im not talking about checking your email and web surfing skills, things a bit more advanced which most genmayers like the poster probably have. Also, i just said php, not sql with it. so the guest book, unless you were to just write it to a file wouldnt be fit for an agurment against what i said. and just like someone already said, it is easy to learn but hard to master.
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my mother doesnt have close to basic skills needed to do this. im not talking about checking your email and web surfing skills, things a bit more advanced which most genmayers like the poster probably have. Also, i just said php, not sql with it. so the guest book, unless you were to just write it to a file wouldnt be fit for an agurment against what i said. and just like someone already said, it is easy to learn but hard to master.
That's not really learning at all. That's knowing.
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That's not really learning at all. That's knowing.

No thats having the correct frame of mind to learn it.
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That's not really learning at all. That's knowing.
ok, well whatever you want to call it.
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i have this one:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...232525X&itm=62

quite a good book and easy to reference too.
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