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If you were a Victim of a deadly assault, then you would be dead.


Why not just move to a different city instead of planning on lethal force? Do you really think you could handle killing somebody and living with it the rest of your life? Having your CCW is definitely not going to solve the problem. Did you go to the police?

Not trying to bash you, but people don't think clearly under high amounts of stress or anger.

Christ shut the fuck up with your pity advice. No one asked for it, and no one cares for it. Faggots like you need to learn lessons like the OP irl before telling other people solutions to problems you will never encounter sitting in your room all day.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:52 AM s0me0nesmind1 is offline  
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If you were a Victim of a deadly assault, then you would be dead.


Why not just move to a different city instead of planning on lethal force? Do you really think you could handle killing somebody and living with it the rest of your life? Having your CCW is definitely not going to solve the problem. Did you go to the police?

Not trying to bash you, but people don't think clearly under high amounts of stress or anger.

Not really the thread to start this .

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The best thing you can do is minimize becoming a victim. You won't win any fights 8 on 1, regardless of what you carry.

Not saying to not get a CCW, certainly should. Just don't expect that to be a fix without changing anything else.

Wrong. I was in a 5 v 1 situation and my gun changed the entire fucking situation and outcome.

OP : Get a glock and some training.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:03 AM Azralia is offline  
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:28 AM SmashingPumpkins is offline  
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If you were a Victim of a deadly assault, then you would be dead.


Why not just move to a different city instead of planning on lethal force? Do you really think you could handle killing somebody and living with it the rest of your life? Having your CCW is definitely not going to solve the problem. Did you go to the police?

Not trying to bash you, but people don't think clearly under high amounts of stress or anger.

I usually like your posts, but that was completely stupid.
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No it wasn't, gearheads post was well within reason. I'd be just as scared walking on a street with gangs of klansmen and a guy looking for a reason to get revenge for what happened to him.
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Wrong. I was in a 5 v 1 situation and my gun changed the entire fucking situation and outcome.

OP : Get a glock and some training.


Um... story please?
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Um... story please?

Yes, I'd like to hear that.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:36 PM hobart is offline  
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[QUOTE=Matador Herz;23886878]Not really. The most I will say is that I was brutally attacked by a group of 8+ skinheads with weapons, knocked unconscious, and briefly thought to be dead. I need heat because it will probably happen again.[/QUOT


Sounds like you pissed some people off and want some payback,don't blame you I would to.
If you were jumped by 8+ skinheads,I agree with Gearhead,a ccw won't help(can't hurt)you may take one or two with you.

When you say probably happen again do you mean the same 8+guys?thats what I'm talking about above,if so are you looking for trouble?or just happen chance?be careful.

I live in or.also so I think you are talking about Portland or Eugene though it doesn't have to be.
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And since im home now let me further elaborate on the stupidity of this shit

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Why not just move to a different city instead of planning on lethal force?
So many reasons here just off the top of my head. Try your success. Your job mean anything to you? How about your home? Let's deduce that you can give up your job, im not going to say you can't get a job elsewhere, but in these times getting a job isn't as simple as apply everywhere and get job offers instantly. But i digress - the main counterpoint is what the fuck would moving cities solve? Please direct me to the utopia where crime doesn't exist, because that is what you are implying. Not only that, often times crime rates in an area are directly proportionate to the cost of a home in the area, meaning sometimes you don't have a choice. Either way, if you think moving is ever the answer to not owning a gun for defensive purposes, you are a moron.

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Do you really think you could handle killing somebody and living with it the rest of your life?
...Yes. See the countless posts s like you have already made asking this question.

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Did you go to the police?
Fucking LOL. Let me give you a perfect story of why this is fucking stupid. I have buddy of mine who lives a few apartments away in the same complex. Him and his roommates were out drunk just outside of their apartment and a few away there were some frat guys that were making asses of themselves. My friends roommate opted to talk some shit in his drunken state, calling them douchebags and such. My roommate was trying to not start anything and tried to calm both sides.

Sadly though, 7 frat dudes ran out and beat the shit out of them. Now I will give you, the roommate that was talking shit probably deserved a beating for running his mouth. My friend on the other hand, was trying to avoid what happened by peacefully trying to tell them he was drunk and being retarded. Except that didn't help and they both got beat to a bloody pulp. The cops were called immediately after, and when questioned, the 2 guys living at the apartment basically said "I dunno lol" when asked about the 7 that assaulted them. Obviously they knew each other, yet there wasn't a damn thing that could be done. Now in any other situation, what are you expecting from the police? Peace of mind knowing they can't do anything?
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And since im home now let me further elaborate on the stupidity of this shit



So many reasons here just off the top of my head. Try your success. Your job mean anything to you? How about your home? Let's deduce that you can give up your job, im not going to say you can't get a job elsewhere, but in these times getting a job isn't as simple as apply everywhere and get job offers instantly. But i digress - the main counterpoint is what the fuck would moving cities solve? Please direct me to the utopia where crime doesn't exist, because that is what you are implying. Not only that, often times crime rates in an area are directly proportionate to the cost of a home in the area, meaning sometimes you don't have a choice. Either way, if you think moving is ever the answer to not owning a gun for defensive purposes, you are a moron.


...Yes. See the countless posts s like you have already made asking this question.


Fucking LOL. Let me give you a perfect story of why this is fucking stupid. I have buddy of mine who lives a few apartments away in the same complex. Him and his roommates were out drunk just outside of their apartment and a few away there were some frat guys that were making asses of themselves. My friends roommate opted to talk some shit in his drunken state, calling them douchebags and such. My roommate was trying to not start anything and tried to calm both sides.

Sadly though, 7 frat dudes ran out and beat the shit out of them. Now I will give you, the roommate that was talking shit probably deserved a beating for running his mouth. My friend on the other hand, was trying to avoid what happened by peacefully trying to tell them he was drunk and being retarded. Except that didn't help and they both got beat to a bloody pulp. The cops were called immediately after, and when questioned, the 2 guys living at the apartment basically said "I dunno lol" when asked about the 7 that assaulted them. Obviously they knew each other, yet there wasn't a damn thing that could be done. Now in any other situation, what are you expecting from the police? Peace of mind knowing they can't do anything?

And for what its worth, there isn't a thing the police will do because they are under no obligation to.They take the reports and follow up.
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Um... story please?

Not a really cool story considering that I threw up after the incident and my hands trembled for the rest of the night.

My gf and I were visiting a bigger city in my state and 5 guys began yelling at us and approaching our car as we were loading the trunk with some shopping stuff. Basically threatened us with this and that and to do various things to us. We ignored them, and that was apparently taken as an insult. They let their dog off the leash and basically told the dog to charge us. I shot the dog once right when it began to charge and then one of the men in the stomach once as they charged her and I. They fled leaving their buddy and the dog. Told my gf to call 911 and puked beside the car.

Not a very epic story, sorry.
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Not a really cool story considering that I threw up after the incident and my hands trembled for the rest of the night.

My gf and I were visiting a bigger city in my state and 5 guys began yelling at us and approaching our car as we were loading the trunk with some shopping stuff. Basically threatened us with this and that and to do various things to us. We ignored them, and that was apparently taken as an insult. They let their dog off the leash and basically told the dog to charge us. I shot the dog once right when it began to charge and then one of the men in the stomach once as they charged her and I. They fled leaving their buddy and the dog. Told my gf to call 911 and puked beside the car.

Not a very epic story, sorry.

You did what you had to do. Be proud of your abilities, who knows what would have happened to you and your gf if you had not reacted like you did. Puking after that is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Not a really cool story considering that I threw up after the incident and my hands trembled for the rest of the night.

My gf and I were visiting a bigger city in my state and 5 guys began yelling at us and approaching our car as we were loading the trunk with some shopping stuff. Basically threatened us with this and that and to do various things to us. We ignored them, and that was apparently taken as an insult. They let their dog off the leash and basically told the dog to charge us. I shot the dog once right when it began to charge and then one of the men in the stomach once as they charged her and I. They fled leaving their buddy and the dog. Told my gf to call 911 and puked beside the car.

Not a very epic story, sorry.

Sounds fucking epic to me. Im sure you don't really feel like being labeled a hero or anything but shit! You hit a charging dog and a dude from across the street with 2 shots?
How many people do you hear stating that a gun vs. a dog is worthless cuz you will never be able to hit them?
Bravo to you, good sir.


PS- are you black or brown?
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Sounds fucking epic to me. Im sure you don't really feel like being labeled a hero or anything but shit! You hit a charging dog and a dude from across the street with 2 shots?
How many people do you hear stating that a gun vs. a dog is worthless cuz you will never be able to hit them?
Bravo to you, good sir.


PS- are you black or brown?

I am white and the guys were white too, I have NO idea why they targeted me and her. The dog had just started to charge to it wasn't a hard shot at all, he wasn't even close to full speed. These guys weren't that far away...maybe 7-8 parked (parked side to side not end to end) cars away?

I'm sorry for hijacking the thread. Just wanted to make a serious point that a gun can change a situation of uneven numbers.

Seriously OP, get a glock and training.
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i'm wondering if you'll even have time to get a CCW, pistol, and do enough training to become comfortable with it

do these guys know you? do they know where you live or where you hang out at?
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