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If you need AWD (live in a snowy area) then the choice is easy.

I would opt for the A4 or an AWD TL.

TL didn't come with AWD until '09... and the '09+ TL is terrible. Also, it seems the OP is looking for a used one ('07).
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:15 AM theWITNESS is offline  
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TL didn't come with AWD until '09... and the '09+ TL is terrible. Also, it seems the OP is looking for a used one ('07).

Ah. What is wrong with '09? If you don't like the cosmetic features, that is all a matter of opinion.
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Ah. What is wrong with '09? If you don't like the cosmetic features, that is all a matter of opinion.

Actually you're very right. It's just ugly. On paper it sounds/looks great. It drives very nicely too.

Two problems; it's too big. My 3rd gen drove swiftly and handled quite nimbly for a car of its size/weight. The 4th gen is a bit boat-like; it's all over the place. It's nowhere near as nimble as the 3rd gen to drive.

Second problem, it's ugly. Now, I know it's a matter of opinion, but seriously?



As opposed to...

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Actually you're very right. It's just ugly. On paper it sounds/looks great. It drives very nicely too.

Two problems; it's too big. My 3rd gen drove swiftly and handled quite nimbly for a car of its size/weight. The 4th gen is a bit boat-like; it's all over the place. It's nowhere near as nimble as the 3rd gen to drive.

Second problem, it's ugly. Now, I know it's a matter of opinion, but seriously?



As opposed to...


Of course it is a matter of opinion. I think it looks nice. I haven't driven either, so I can't comment on that. I don't even care if it is super nimble. If I wanted a fast nimble car I would buy something else. If I want a comfortable 4 door sedan for my family to cruise in that is safe, reliable, full of tech goodies, and looks good I would have no problem buying the '09 if I had the cash.
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Talking about brand cachet, the "Acura" is an accord. Do you realize that it too has a fanboy base, full of outspoken and annoying individuals?

lol
I'm going by the public's general perception. Audi has more marketing clout than Acura, regardless of how annoying Honda fanboys can be.

And you can't say it's an Accord. It's a Euro-Accord.
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Love my 2.0T GTI, with a chip and turbo back i'm at 270hp+ and over 300lb/ft.. The feel of the engine and sounds are very different car to car. I had an EOS loaner and it was geared slower and way too quiet.

I wouldn't buy a TSX solely because of the TL.
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I can never understand why people will buy a badge and forfeit any interesting or enjoyable features one would expect in order to gain the right to say, "I own a...".

That's exactly the market that the TL is catering too. The 30-year-olds that are "too cool" for an Accord, and the 40-year-olds that are "too young" for a Lexus ES.

The TSX is the right way to go if you want a reasonably sporty FWD sedan with some luxury features on the side. It went head-to-head with the Jetta GLI, Alfa 159, Peugeot 306, Volvo S40, and probably some other stuff from Opel/Vauxhall, Citroen, Seat, Skoda, and so on. This segment is hugely competitive in Europe, and anything that enters HAS to be good--especially from an "outsider" like Honda, whose European presence is lacking.

The TSX fits in a niche market in the US; there's nothing it directly compares to. The TL goes head-to-head with the Lexus ES and... the Buick Lacrosse, or some other FWD land yacht.

For the record, I'm talking about the previous-generation TSX and TL, not those god-forsaken ugly ducklings they've got on the market now.
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tsx is to a3 is to 1 series therefore 1 series

if you want to compare an acura to an audi it would be the tl.

This makes more sense to me personally, but I don't need AWD.

Acura, imho needs to do more with their 'premium' line. Lexus and inifinity are RWD with a lot more to set them appart from a more budget oriented camry or maxima. Acura takes the path of least resistance in this respect. I've owned two of them, and worked on countless hondas...

In 2011 there's supposed to be a RWD acura RL i think?

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-rl-future.html
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The RL's name has been ruined. It's not going to sell unless it's phenomenal.
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I have the TSX. it's just boring to drive now. But it has given me zero problems. it used to be MORE boring but with the Neuspeed Supercup kit, it's a bit impro........................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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drove a4 for a year now
and fuck that shit
tons of electrical issues
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Between the tsx and quattro I'd take the a4, but it's a hard decision.
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Actually you're very right. It's just ugly. On paper it sounds/looks great. It drives very nicely too.

Two problems; it's too big. My 3rd gen drove swiftly and handled quite nimbly for a car of its size/weight. The 4th gen is a bit boat-like; it's all over the place. It's nowhere near as nimble as the 3rd gen to drive.

Second problem, it's ugly. Now, I know it's a matter of opinion, but seriously?



As opposed to...


Dear god, the new TL is an ugly pile of shit.

I've grown to not hate the new TSX's style, but the TL is a disaster.
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I currently own a 06 Audi A4 SLine and I love it.

Which Car is better? Depends on a few things. Here's the
reason why I picked the A4 over any other 4 door sedan.

I get snow in the winter months, and being i commute a lot
a few factors were a must.

1. Gas Millage had to at least be 30mpg+
2. AWD
3. Comfortable to Drive
4. had to be appealing look wise.

Now, awd is a big factor because if you don't have shitty weather
there really isn't a need for awd. Yea, you can get a good set of
snow tires, but even with that, it never comes close to awd.

So my choice really came down to 2 car makers.

1. Subaru
2. Audi

Both known for their awd systems both make awesome cars.

So it came down to a a4 or a legacy.

After driving both, and seeing what each had to offer. I had to go with audi.



Between a4 or tsx?

Depends...

Personally, I love having awd in the winter months but if i lived in a area without
shit weather during some months, I would of picked up a FWD car probably.
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