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Nice to see you are falling back on your normal retardedness.
Would you rather I have someone find a link to Virrik shoving a telephone pole sized excell spreadsheet up your ass...
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:51 PM arthur pendragon is offline  
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Would you rather I have someone find a link to Virrik shoving a telephone pole sized excell spreadsheet up your ass...

He has never refuted the Lancet report. He has spewed and it has been blindly accepted by the idiotic right, that is all.
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Its better. I will probobly get blasted for it but, it falls in line with the "it takes money to make money" thing... "it takes lives to save lives".

If this works and I dont care where its currently at, im willing to keep pushing as long as their is a glimmer of hope for a free iraq. The economical benifits of a free iraq are outstanding.
We havent saved anyones lives by invading Iraq. According to our own government Saddam was contained and according to his own government Saddam was more worried about extremist muslims and Iran than he was in attacking the US or the kurds or Shias. While I agree we should do everything we can and stay as long as it takes to try and stabilize Iraq it's nieve to think at this point that the Iraq war has saved anyone or caused anything but suffering. Any economic benefits Iraq might provide as a free nation (which at this point wont happen, best case scenario you end up with a more liberal Iran) have long ago past the point viability for the US.

Iraq is a disgrace and has done great damage to the US politicaly, militarily, and economicaly and it will take a decade(s) before the after affects of the Iraq war dissapear.
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He has never refuted the Lancet report. He has spewed and it has been blindly accepted by the idiotic right, that is all.

You keep claiming that while everyone else laughs their ass off at you........
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Old 03-27-2006, 05:38 PM arthur pendragon is offline  
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The deaths are causing rifts in the relationship between Shiite leaders and the Amercian authorities in Iraq. The Shiites have suspened the negociations needed to continue forming their new government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/28/in...raq.html?fta=y

Bush responded with a statement of no confidence towards the current (Shiite) Prime Minister, saying that he does not want to see the Prime Minister as the next leader of the new Iraqi government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/29/in...html?th&emc=th

This is sad because the formation of the new government was one of the few positive points always touted by the war supporters. Now with talks stalled and Bush singling out least favorites there will continue to be vacuum of legitimate power in Iraq, which is bound to make the violence continue.
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The deaths are causing rifts in the relationship between Shiite leaders and the Amercian authorities in Iraq.
It will pass. The Iraqi government will continue (which really scares you foreigners and anti-Bush kind).


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...which is bound to make the violence continue.
Which is what you're constantly cheerleading for.
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Reporting the news as it happens isn't cheerleading. That's what you do for Arthur Pendragon.

Also trying to combat the current events that I bring to this thread with your silly little comments is like pissing in the wind. Try and provide some content to prove your points rather than your empty opinions, placations, and accusations.
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If you didn't just blindly buy into the Fox News Big Lie, then you would know that the survery people asked to see death certificates to confirm all deaths.

Also, they deliberately exluded one of their sets of data (from fallujah) as an outlier, so if anything their number is an underestimate.

I bought up the idea of it being discredited because I know plenty of people here are stupid enough to believe that.
Why then, is the 100K an estimate, if the survey people only counted death certificates??

And how would 900-and-some households come up with 100K certificates??? That's over 100 per household!!

The Lancet Report gives bogus numbers. That's the way it is.
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Why then, is the 100K an estimate, if the survey people only counted death certificates??

And how would 900-and-some households come up with 100K certificates??? That's over 100 per household!!

Nice attempt to twist my words. You said they shouldn't have trusted people who told them their relatives had died. I destroyed your argument by pointing out they asked the people they are surveying for death certificiates.

I did not say all 100k had a death certificate attached. You fail at word games.

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Only in your neocon fantasies.
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It will pass. The Iraqi government will continue (which really scares you foreigners and anti-Bush kind).



Which is what you're constantly cheerleading for.
You really are retarded.
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It will pass.

By 'pass' did you mean getting worse daily?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/30/in...html?th&emc=th

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Beleaguered Premier Warns U.S. to Stop Interfering in Iraq's Politics

By EDWARD WONG
Published: March 30, 2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq, March 29 Facing growing pressure from the Bush administration to step down, Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari of Iraq vigorously asserted his right to stay in office on Wednesday and warned the Americans against interfering in the country's political process.

Mr. Jaafari also defended his recent political alliance with the radical Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr, now the prime minister's most powerful backer, saying in an interview that Mr. Sadr and his militia, now thousands strong, are a fact of life in Iraq and need to be accepted into mainstream politics.
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I think it had as has the potential to get better. From curiosity I have read many Iraqi blogs, which say that at first when the Americans came they were mostly in joy because finally someone was going to liberate them. Seeing how money for reconstruction has been pissed away, reconstruction itself has halted majorly, insurgents are effectively creating chaos and dampering most forms of progress. Every time the US is said to have killed civilians, whether they really did or not, take the recent events where supposedely US (backup) & Iraqi forces murdered like 16 innocent people worshipping (I dont believe this is what really happened), regardless this stuff goes on their news and it does a great amount of damage politically.

I think that the US should have realized these people have been oppressed so long, and that after they defeated Sadaam's army they should have imposed martial law with the aid of Iraqi police. I know its cruel and maybe a wild idea but I think it was necessary so that they may form a stable government without huge interruptions. They would also be able to conduct reconstruction and get the flow of oil going again without huge interruptions as well. There is no doubt in my mind that the US & Iraqi police are capable of defeating the insurgency, but it isn't worth winning by military force, it needs to somehow be done politically, yet as we can see with the problems of civil war I dont see all parties coming to a peaceful agreement in the near future.
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Nice attempt to twist my words. You said they shouldn't have trusted people who told them their relatives had died.
You're spinning words again, poor Carl. I never said the surveyers shouldn't have trusted. I stated that the surveyers did trust, without proof of all accounts. Thus there is no accuracy to the numbers of the Lancet Report. It is bogus.

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I destroyed your argument by pointing out they asked the people they are surveying for death certificiates.
You stated the obvious. They asked for death certs. However, Carl, you condescend your own spun words with:
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Thanks for proving my point.
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By 'pass' did you mean getting worse daily?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/30/in...html?th&emc=th
No, I meant it is and will continue to improve. Iraq is not going to become a perfect, peaceful country overnight. It will take time for the different parties of government to work well together, given their limited ability to do so in the past under Saddam.

By the way, nice attempt to link to a different subject, or spin, as you're trying to do. As for your link, did you bother to research anything about Jaafari? I'll assume you have not, unless you're of course cheerleading for further violence. OH NO! Not Dyno cheering for more violence!!! It can't be!!



Anyway, once you do actually research what you write, you'll find that the Jaafari government supports the sectarian violent militias.
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Was this Jaafari government elected by the Iraqi people in a democratic and completely fair election? If so, then the US can go fuck-off with telling them how to run things. We touted the elections as fair and shit as a way to show we were doing something, so we can't say we don't like the guy in power now. Can't have it both ways.

Until the bodycount starts to go down, nobody can say things are getting better.
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