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Dyno
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So the director of the morgues in Bagdad went on record with proof that over 7,000 people have been killed in the city alone, most in execution style with evidence of being tortured beforehand. Then he flees for his life and goes into hiding.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1721366,00.html
Old 03-06-2006, 11:23 AM Dyno is offline  
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Dyno
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And the abductions are getting bolder and bolder!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/09/in...html?th&emc=th

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BAGHDAD, Iraq, March 8 In one of the most audacious kidnappings since the American invasion, a group of about 50 people was abducted in a Baghdad raid on Wednesday by gunmen wearing the uniforms of a police paramilitary unit, Iraqi officials and witnesses said.

The raid took place hours after the discovery in Baghdad of at least 24 bodies, all victims of execution-style slayings, Iraqi and American officials said.
Old 03-09-2006, 06:39 AM Dyno is offline  
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Dyno
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Six car bombs set of in Sadr city, neighbourhood of the hardcore. 46 killed, 200 wounded. Shiites took it to the streets so by tomorrow or the next day we'll see how many victims the rebuttle claims.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/13/in...html?th&emc=th

All the people saying Iraq is on the road to recovery seem to have become bored with this topic but I'll keep posting the death tolls her until outright civil war is officially claimed.

This other article is interesting in it talks about the difficulties the generals had in getting what they wanted during the 2003 invasion and the occupation to follow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/13/in...html?th&emc=th
Old 03-13-2006, 12:47 PM Dyno is offline  
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The US is now spending billions to figure out a way to disarm the IEDs.

Your tax dollars hard at work, folks!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/...raq_threat_no1

Yeah, Iraq is just fiiinnneee....
Old 03-13-2006, 09:12 PM SilkSteel is offline  
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It's just as bad, probably worse, than under Saddam, but in a completely different way than before.
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IEDs is a good thing to make a priority because they are fucking everything up.

The reprisal for the Sadr City bombings have started. Four suspected bombers where executed and strung up on a lamp post in broad daylight.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/in...html?th&emc=th

Check this line here.

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Mosques blare warnings on loudspeakers for American troops to stay out. Increasingly, the Americans have been doing just that.
This would indicate that American forces are starting to lose control of at least some section of Bagdad. Not the outer boony regions of the country but the city from where they control the entire operation itself. That is fucked! How can you stop the violence if you don't go into the neighbourhoods?
Old 03-14-2006, 07:30 AM Dyno is offline  
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In the past 24 hours nearly 87 bodies have been found about Bagdad.

The evidence is becoming overwhelming that the Shiites and Sunnis are at war.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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IEDs is a good thing to make a priority because they are fucking everything up.

The reprisal for the Sadr City bombings have started. Four suspected bombers where executed and strung up on a lamp post in broad daylight.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/in...html?th&emc=th

Check this line here.



This would indicate that American forces are starting to lose control of at least some section of Bagdad. Not the outer boony regions of the country but the city from where they control the entire operation itself. That is fucked! How can you stop the violence if you don't go into the neighbourhoods?

I just meant that its pointless to figure out a way to get rid of the IEDs. In the article, they state how there is a certain stretch of road where the American troops patrol regularly for IEDs. By the time they reach the end of the road, the insurgents have already planted more IEDs along that same stretch of road. They should be targetting the makers of such bombs and how they get the technical know-how to make them.. it would be a more effective and efficient use of tax dollars in the war effort.

Bush's response to the impending civil war is simply that the US is training more policemen in Baghdad to patrol the streets... yeah.. like that is gonna do anything.

This country is headed down a non-stop spiral. Shit is gonna leak out of there and destabilize the whole region [middle east]. We're at the brink of something very very horrible. Pretty much.. the US opened Pandora's Box by attacking Iraq.
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They should be targetting the makers of such bombs and how they get the technical know-how to make them..

Wow, now that's really thinking outside the box
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Wow, now that's really thinking outside the box

k, tell that to the administration then.

Last I checked, they were just pouring money into these ridiculous "Buffalo" vehicles.
Old 03-14-2006, 01:40 PM SilkSteel is offline  
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k, tell that to the administration then.

Last I checked, they were just pouring money into these ridiculous "Buffalo" vehicles.

Obviously, you don't check very hard. Found this in a couple of minutes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html

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All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69, has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's deadliest tactic.
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k, tell that to the administration then.

Last I checked, they were just pouring money into these ridiculous "Buffalo" vehicles.
Ridiculous in that they save American and Iraqi troops' lives from the terrorist's IEDs?

You've become so warped as to call that ridiculous?
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Obviously, you don't check very hard. Found this in a couple of minutes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html

Okay, compare those 200 kills to:

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There have been approximately 28,000 IED incidents in Iraq between April 2003 and November 2005, according to Jan. 24 briefing slides prepared by Multi-National Force-Iraq. These explosive devices have led to thousands of U.S. military causalities, including hundreds of deaths, according to the Defense Department.

Insurgents constructing these devices have managed to improve their sophistication beyond the U.S. military's ability to consistently defeat them. The Defense Department has organized a dedicated group to explore options for a proverbial silver bullet to defeat IEDs. Meanwhile, the Pentagon has invested in a number of systems designed to clear routes -- such as the Cougar, the Buffalo and unmanned systems. To detect roadside bombs, the U.S. military is relying on a range of sensors -- from those carried in airborne platforms to bomb-sniffing dogs. The Pentagon has invested as well in individual body armor for soldiers and armored vehicles.
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,89295,00.html

I really doubt the Pentagon will find a way to stop all IEDs through the use of any type of technology. They can jam cell phone signals that trigger the bombs, but then the insurgents start using old-fashioned timers from washing machines. They make dummy bombs just to cluster troops around them and then set off a hidden bomb right next to the dummy.. causing casualties to the cluster of troops. Its just a money-sink. If they put all of that money towards gathering more reliable intel and executing more covert operations aimed towards the organizers of such IED attacks, the overall IED casualty rate would drop significantly.
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Ridiculous in that they save American and Iraqi troops' lives from the terrorist's IEDs?

You've become so warped as to call that ridiculous?

"ridiculous" as in the US is relying too much on expensive-ass technology and not on good-ole fashioned man power which is a tried and true method of getting the job done. See my previous post.
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Okay, compare those 200 kills to:

Oh, would just STFU already? Just what the world needs, another fucking armchair general.
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