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Windows 8 has so many copies of iOS.

The extremely simplified touch based main menu. The full screen multitouch nature of the apps. The Microsoft App Store, and how those apps install. The fact the thing is a multitouch centric OS that runs on ARM processors....

Umm, don't surface tablets run on Nvidia hardware? The surface RT runs on arm. But that isn't copying apple. Both apple and windows PCs run on intel hardware. That doesn't make them copies of each other.

And the upcoming surface tablets will run on regular PC hardware like core 3s and 5s.

As for the "control interface", it's a fucking tablet. Touching the screen is how you interface with the device no matter which tablet OS you are running. That's like saying mac copied microsoft because both machines use a mouse and keyboard for input.

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This all Apple's doing.
And google and samsung and everyone else who makes tablets.

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And what about the magnetically attached cover...
ipads don't come with covers.

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and magsafe power plug...
that was an apple thing but that just makes sense to have on lightweight portable devices.

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The way the Microsoft surface has 1 physical button that is the home button. It's an attempt at an iPad clone. Ya you can highlight there differences. But if it weren't for Apple the Microsoft surface would not be multitouch, it would not be running on an ARM processor, it's entire UI would not have been reworked to be multi-touch centric. Microsoft would not have stood behind and backed a few specific devices themselves. If it weren't for Apple, Windows 8 would be just another Windows release, that everyone would buy OEM or come pre-installed on traditional style laptops and dekstops. Apple has caused Microsoft too make a sharp turn in it's direction and aim as a company.
Everyone and their mother is making tablets now. Of course one of the largest tech companies in the world would get in on it

I say again, spend some time using the two. Windows 8 is not iOS.

windows 8 does come preinstalled on traditional laptops and desktops. That is where it sucks and no one wants it.

when the windows 8 pro tablets come out powered by core i3/i5 processors, it will be a total game changer because you will be able to run anything on your surface pro that you can run on your desktop or laptop. iOS may have an impressive list of apps and games but it can't beat everything that runs on windows.

then again, apple is probably already working on a new i3/i5 ipad that runs a touch screen version of osX...
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i cant stand fucking tablets. theyre just computers without keyboards. its stupid.

I don't get it either. every time I see one I think, "hey, it's a giant iphone that can't fit in your pocket or make phone calls."
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So was Apple admitting that Intel was right when they abandoned proprietary hardware in their desktops/notebooks?
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I don't get it either. every time I see one I think, "hey, it's a giant iphone that can't fit in your pocket or make phone calls."

exactly.
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So was Apple admitting that Intel was right when they abandoned proprietary hardware in their desktops/notebooks?

yea basically.

Also only the cheap surface runs on Arm, the expensive fancy one uses Intel.

Ps. claiming that "one button" is some sort of apple signature move after advent of touch screens is simply retarded
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Apple did two things:

1. bring fashion to computing

2. make computing easy enough for casual non-tech savvy folks


I do give them credit there. They made things pretty and dumbed it down.
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Windows 8 from a UI prospective is a cluster fuck!
Microsoft didnt copy shit from iOS or they might have actually gotten things right.

Microsoft is quickly it's relevance in tech industry.

I hate how they tried to make Windows 8 for the bubble gum chewing idiot consumer but still got it so wrong!
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So you know... the Microsoft Surface.

It's pretty much Microsoft's stab at making an iPad.

They conformed Windows 8 to work more like iOS.

They've changed their whole marketing strategy to be more like Apple.

Even the visual graphic style of their marketing is replicating Apple. Even the new "Microsoft Stores" are just knock-offs of Apple Stores.

Pretty much Microsoft is admitting that Apple was right with the iPad, and the design philosophies of iOS and everything else, and now Microsoft is trying to save face.

Microsoft is like the little brother tagging along all like "Ya ya, me too, me too".

Apple is just a smarter company.

boom

Oh hey look - it's an Apple Fanboi. Dresses like an Apple Fanboi (like a fgt). Thinks he is deep minded (but really an insignificant person). Coincidentally given all this amazing insight, you have managed to do jack shit with your life.

Your accomplishment list:
Become a walking, talking, ignorant advertisement for a company that isn't even paying you for marketing them.
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Oh hey look - it's an Apple Fanboi. Dresses like an Apple Fanboi (like a fgt). Thinks he is deep minded (but really an insignificant person). Coincidentally given all this amazing insight, you have managed to do jack shit with your life.

Your accomplishment list:
Become a walking, talking, ignorant advertisement for a company that isn't even paying you for marketing them.

like that justin long fker. fuck that worm.
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As for the "control interface", it's a fucking tablet. Touching the screen is how you interface with the device no matter which tablet OS you are running. That's like saying mac copied microsoft because both machines use a mouse and keyboard for input.

Actually apple used mice first, Microsoft copied Apple on that one too.

Which yes I am aware Apple just copied Xerox, but Apple was the first to make it commercially usable and viable, and solve the user experience problems with it.

In the same way that technically Apple didn't invent multitouch interfaces, but they were the first to make it commercially usable and viable and solve the user experience problems with it.

All modern GUI based computing essentially exists in the shadow of Apple.


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And google and samsung and everyone else who makes tablets.
Apple did it before them.
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So was Apple admitting that Intel was right when they abandoned proprietary hardware in their desktops/notebooks?

yes

Intel was ahead of Apple in the desktop chip department

Apple's biggest contribution I see as primarily solving the issues with user experience
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Apple did two things:

1. bring fashion to computing

2. make computing easy enough for casual non-tech savvy folks


I do give them credit there. They made things pretty and dumbed it down.

OSX is actually a much superior development platform over Windows
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