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the proposed border wall in texas

How do you all feel about the plans to erect a wall on the Texas - Mexico border?

I am completely against a physical wall, but I do not support illegal immigration.


And if you happen to support the wall, where do you live?
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:53 PM Phyre is offline  
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I would support a wall that would work and I live in california. I don't think it will even make a dent in the illegal immigration problem and I think it's political huff and puff for candidates to show their xenophobic supporters that they don't like them mexxies. While of course going behind everybodys backs and making it easier to get a job for illegals, easier to get over here, drivers licenses, etc...
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Not only do I support a physical wall but I support one armed with sentry guns. My suggestion would be a first round of guns that are non/less than lethal(rubber bullets maybe?) and then a secondary armament loaded with either real bullets or some less than lethal projectile that can completely debilitate what it hits.

I live in Northern New Jersey.

Edit: Also, I support the building of such a wall across the entire land borders of the US, both north and south.
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now what about private land owners? should they have to give up their land? land that their families have lived and survived off of for 100-300 years? What about the actual U.S. communities that will be divided?

In south texas a city mayor has proposed building a weir dam on the rio grande river. It would double the size of the river. Not only would it make it harder to cross, but border patrol would be able to patrol up and down the river with speed boats.
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I would support an effective border wall (Israel's separation wall comes to mind) but only if the process for legal immigration was revamped.
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now what about private land owners? should they have to give up their land? land that their families have lived and survived off of for 100-300 years? What about the actual U.S. communities that will be divided?

In south texas a city mayor has proposed building a weir dam on the rio grande river. It would double the size of the river. Not only would it make it harder to cross, but border patrol would be able to patrol up and down the river with speed boats.
Communities are divided and people have lost land for things such as new freeways/interstates and other things that serve the common good...this won't be any different.

edit- I'm undecided about a wall/fence on the border...I know it will cost billions in taxpayer money but I'm not sure it will be effective.
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I wrote a lot about how I feel but decided not to post it.

In short, I live in south Texas and I would support any effective means to secure our border.
I would support enforcing laws to make life in the US difficult for illegals.
I would support enforcing laws that punish those employing or harboring illegals.
I would support repatriation of Mexican citizens.
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Not only do I support a physical wall but I support one armed with sentry guns. My suggestion would be a first round of guns that are non/less than lethal(rubber bullets maybe?) and then a secondary armament loaded with either real bullets or some less than lethal projectile that can completely debilitate what it hits.

I live in Northern New Jersey.

Edit: Also, I support the building of such a wall across the entire land borders of the US, both north and south.


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I think its a half baked idea if for no other reason than its impossible for it to be effective. Anyone that wants to come to the US and make an honest living by working hard is fine with me.
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It's unlikely they will ever get it built. I support it as a measure to stop even more immigration, but it won't help with the 20-30 million already here, and probably won't stop continued illegal immigration anyway.


WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR POLICIES AND STOP REWARDING THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The only real solution to the problem, and only one man will do it.


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I think its a half baked idea if for no other reason than its impossible for it to be effective. Anyone that wants to come to the US and make an honest living by working hard is fine with me.



Illegals absorb billions of your tax dollars and cause medical prices to rise for citizens who can pay to cover their expense. Thousands of hospitals in the US have closed because federal mandates force them to treat illegals.

It's a shitty situation. I don't want to turn them away from hospitals, but at the same time many americans cannot afford medical care and this is a big contributor (besides government involvement) to the skyrocketing costs.

The first thing we need to do is close the doors and cut off the welfare for illegals. If you want to work and pay your way and you're already here, well I'm not on a crusade to deport you (though the law on the books now says illegal alien caught = deported).

The country will simply collapse if we keep going as is. We cannot afford it. USD is at it's lowest in history. Housing crisis the worst in 30 years. Oil at record highs, almost double per barrel what it was at right before the war started, less than 5 bucks from $100 a barrel (this translates to over 4 dollars a gallon base according to market analysts). The fed is creating massive amounts of money and drasitcally increasing the money supply to keep the economy afloat.
And despite being broke and massive public outcry the Iran war appears to be going ahead as scheduled...

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I doubt a wall would do much good beyond slowing down the immigration rate a bit, people would probably just find a new way to cross the border as they've done every time States have built fences before (get ready for saltbacks California/Texas).

A much better plan would be to revamp the US immigration policy especially as it concerns Latin America because it's obviously not working as is.
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Not only do I support a physical wall but I support one armed with sentry guns. My suggestion would be a first round of guns that are non/less than lethal(rubber bullets maybe?) and then a secondary armament loaded with either real bullets or some less than lethal projectile that can completely debilitate what it hits.

I live in Northern New Jersey.

Edit: Also, I support the building of such a wall across the entire land borders of the US, both north and south.

You're pretty damn confusing. Sometimes I think you give a well spoken image of yourself and all.

Then you do this. What the hell?
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It's unlikely they will ever get it built. I support it as a measure to stop even more immigration, but it won't help with the 20-30 million already here, and probably won't stop continued illegal immigration anyway.
Pretty sure there's between 12-13 million illegals.

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Illegals absorb billions of your tax dollars and cause medical prices to rise for citizens who can pay to cover their expense.
Illegal immigration is not in any way causing a significant rise in nationwide healthcare expenses.

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Thousands of hospitals in the US have closed because federal mandates force them to treat illegals.
If by thousands you mean a few hundred then yeah, there are unfortunately a lot of borderline hospitals serving poor communities who are pushed over the edge by the federal government refusing to properly reimburse hospitals for the treatment of those who cannot pay (typically illegal immigrants). Instead of redistributing federal taxes payed by illegals to the local level, the fed pumps the money into other programs.

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It's a shitty situation. I don't want to turn them away from hospitals, but at the same time many americans cannot afford medical care and this is a big contributor (besides government involvement) to the skyrocketing costs.
Almost all the pressure illegal immigrants put on the medical system are on the local level and to think illegal immigration is causing a significant rise in medical expenses nationwide is retarded. Are you inflating these numbers on purpose or is it just ignorance?

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The country will simply collapse if we keep going as is. We cannot afford it. USD is at it's lowest in history. Housing crisis the worst in 30 years. Oil at record highs, almost double per barrel what it was at right before the war started, less than 5 bucks from $100 a barrel (this translates to over 4 dollars a gallon base according to market analysts). The fed is creating massive amounts of money and drasitcally increasing the money supply to keep the economy afloat.
And despite being broke and massive public outcry the Iran war appears to be going ahead as scheduled...
And then the 4 horsemen rode out...but behold, for Ron Paul stopped them with but a motion of his hand.
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The only way to really stop illegal immiration is to prosecute those who hire Illegals.

A wall may help the flow temporarily, but doesnt help relations much, what is needed is increased patrols with fence/wall aids and controlled entratce points, and stiff fines and prosecution under criminal law for those hiring them, harboring them, renting to them or contracting them. Cut off thier money and back to Mexico they go.
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israel's wall is stupid and so is this idea.
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