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The only way I would ever vote for her is if she was running against huckabee. Id rather a retard in office than huckabee and his GOD IS EVERYTHING stance.
Old 01-12-2008, 08:59 PM wingedbuttmonkey is offline  
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No, I do not like her.

This is why:

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In 1992 Hillary Clinton supported a federal ban on semi-automatic firearms before the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act was passed in 1993 and signed by President Clinton[98].

During a 1999 press conference at the White House, First Lady Hillary Clinton stated, "And since the crime bill was enacted, 19 of the deadliest assault weapons are harder to find on our streets. We will never know how many tragedies we've avoided because of these efforts."[99] During the time period referenced by Clinton, handguns accounted for over 2/3 of firearm mortalities in the US.[100]

In the 1999 Proposition B in Missouri campaign, Robin Carnahan's Safe Schools and Workplaces Committee, on the weekend prior to voting day, coordinated a taped phone message from Hillary Clinton that automatically dialed 75,000 homes statewide with the message, "Just too dangerous for Missouri families." [101]

Hillary Clinton favors "sensible gun control legislation" and not limiting gun control lawsuits. [102] She made gun control issues part of her 2000 Senate campaign.[103]

Hillary Clinton was one of 16 Senators who voted against the 2006 Vitter Amendment, which prohibits the funding of the confiscation of lawfully-held firearms during a disaster.[104]
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She's got a big ego and a "waspy" attitude I can't get over. But if it was between her and Romney, I'm voting for Hillary just because Romney is an asshole who's a bigger flip-flopper than Kerry...

Romney needs to hop back into his Lexus and go back to his Mormon dream worl errr... cult.
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No, I do not like her.

This is why:

, go to Oakland or Richmond(California, not Michigan and Virginia respectively), South Central LA, Detroit, Newark(New Jersey), 'Nawlins and firearms in the hands of OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG and beaner gangsta lowlifes are alive and well. The liberal argument for gun control is passe, there's always the black market and criminals don't go through legal routes to acquire anything. Hell, the court's overturned San Francisco's gun ban!
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There is a reason her campain is often called "The Machine" - Everything she says and does feels as if it has been pre-determined and planned well before it acutally took place.

Yuck.
Agreed. But I'd still vote for her over all of the republican field except Paul. If it came down to Paul or Clinton I'd have to vote for the one who I felt was less sold out and entrenched and that would not be Clinton.
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I dislike hillary because
a) she embodies an ideololgy completly contrary to the best interests of this nation
b) Every thing she does, down to her faked tears in Iowa, is calculated and contrived, showing that she is power hungry and not in it for the best interest of the country. This is further proven by her staying with Bill after he cheated on her multiple times, purely for political benefit.
c) she cackles like an old hag.
d) she has no problem selling weapons technologies to china.
e) not personally strong enough to leave bill after his .
among other things

That, and I don't want my taxes to go up to 50%-60% due to her socialist healthcare plan.
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Aside from disagreeing sharply with the political philosophy she says she espouses (but flips flops and deviates from so much it is pathetic), it is my read of her personality and moral fiber that honestly frightens me. Having read in detail many of the criminal and shady dealings the Clintons rode to power, and my own ability to judge a person by thier eyes and body movements, and factoring in her "southern drawl" when she is campaigning in the south.... I can honestly say I have not disliked a candidate more in my 36 years on this earth. 'Detest' her would be too kind a descriptive.

Plus, many 20 somethings have not known a USA without a Bush or Clinton. Enough already, theyve "given" us NAFTA, Open Borders while claiming a war on drugs, wars all up in the middle east we may never get ourselves out of and the very reason they hate us in the first place is were there and have been fucking them royaly and overthrowing thier governments and exploiting them for generations, hatred globally and embarrassment in spades, a fucked economy and housing crisis from blowing banker cock (that was on CNN just tonight by the way, and CNN leans left!) , a worthless dollar that isnt backed by gold the way it should be that they just print more when they need to (see RP for a fix to that), an education system that is a joke to the world and thats just a beginning of the list . How anyone can even consider her with a streight face is truly and honestly beyond me.

p.s. There wouldnt BE a healthcare problem if we had more of our earned money to afford it, universal healthcare is government theft. A vote for Hillary is a vote for an even larger and more inept and corrupt government than we already have. How does this not scare the living fuck out of people!?

"Government is best that governs the least" - Thomas Jefferson/Ron Paul.
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things I disagree with(running through her wiki page cause I can't be troubled to think of every instance and quote that I have noted)

1. wanting to spend federal money on a woodstock(as in the music festival) museum.
2. wants to spend money to bail out dumbfuck Niggers who buy homes without realizing that they might not be able to afford them
3. not pledging to not create new taxes or raise existing ones.
4. wants to sign the kyoto protocol, a document that does jack shit to us, other than possibly fucking us in the ass, China and INdia signed but don't have to reduce emissions, there's no benefit to being in this hippy club, and fuck anyone who thinks it's in America's best interest to join such a group. we want to reduce emmissions, that's great, but we do it for ourselves, not for a bunch of Niggers, I'd rather us enter a nuclear war with the rest of the world than sign that worthless piece of shit.
5. hillary was put in charge of fixing healthcare in 1993, she sucked at that more than monica sucked Bill's dick.
6. her plan involves "required health coverage"
7. was previously on Walmart's board of directors, but then praised it when Maryland forced Walmart to get healthcare shit for it's employees(cares about healthcare but didnt' do shit about it back then).
8. her unwavering support for israel, a company that gets ~30% of our foreign aid, that we completely support politically, and at the same time, kills innocent people almost as well as we do. Apparently she doesn't see the whole pot-kettle thing with israel and palestine
9. likes illegal immigrants too much.
10. this little Kerry-ism
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Drexel University in Philadelphia on October 30, 2007, Clinton committed to support of New York Governor Eliot Spitzer's plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. Two minutes later, she recanted the position and blamed the Bush administration for not passing immigration reform.[48] The following day, she clarified her position in a prepared statement by coming out in support of Spitzer's bill.[49] Two weeks later, after Spitzer abandoned the plan due to widespread opposition, Clinton reversed her position on the issue once again, stating: "I support Governor Spitzer's decision today to withdraw his proposal. As president, I will not support driver's licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration including border security and fixing our broken system."
11. wants to sanction iran, belives that nuclear Iran would be a threat to Israel(not us though durr)
12. more flip flopping on her Iraq war stance, regarding amendments to authorization. her constant go to move to blame president bush(like Giuliani and 9/11).
13. wanting to continue the cuban embargo(cold war is over)
14. praises the UN for bosnia but then thinks we should do more in Darfur, where the UN is already working... and where we'd be going above and beyond the UN to do it(lol Iraq war anyone?).
15. critical of vouchers and parents who send their children to private schools but then turns around and does the same with chelsea.
16. her wnating to censor video games cause she's a humorless nazi OMGOMGOMGOMG masquerading in society as a dried up, crusty, old windbag
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2. wants to spend money to bail out dumbfuck Niggers who buy homes without realizing that they might not be able to afford them

It's generally good for all of us if we try to prevent people from being foreclosed on. Foreclosures can result in homeless people, homeless people are a bigger drain on the society.

We SHOULD NOT give money to the banks on their behalf, or give them money. Instead, give the banks tax incentives for making these mortgages work so people can stay in their homes. Homeowners with good credit ratings are good for the economy in general and good for the local neighborhood.

Having had mortgage issues myself (complicated story, we ended up two payments behind because we were inadvertently shorting the bank $100 a month and never got any warning) I know how hard it is to dig yourself out once you're behind. Banks would do well to establish a policy to allow people who are beginning to fall behind a way to resolve the issue and get back on track; I know from personal experience that they "can't do anything until you're 90 days behind", or at least that's what they told me.

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3. not pledging to not create new taxes or raise existing ones.

That worked so well for GHW Bush, I'm sure they're all lining up to do it.
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It's generally good for all of us if we try to prevent people from being foreclosed on. Foreclosures can result in homeless people, homeless people are a bigger drain on the society.

We SHOULD NOT give money to the banks on their behalf, or give them money. Instead, give the banks tax incentives for making these mortgages work so people can stay in their homes. Homeowners with good credit ratings are good for the economy in general and good for the local neighborhood.

Having had mortgage issues myself (complicated story, we ended up two payments behind because we were inadvertently shorting the bank $100 a month and never got any warning) I know how hard it is to dig yourself out once you're behind. Banks would do well to establish a policy to allow people who are beginning to fall behind a way to resolve the issue and get back on track; I know from personal experience that they "can't do anything until you're 90 days behind", or at least that's what they told me.

That worked so well for GHW Bush, I'm sure they're all lining up to do it.

you're pulling in your own little anecdote. However, people should have the common sense to not overspend. We're doing too much as it is, our country is doing it, it's citizens are doing it(lol credit card debt).

What about the guys who bought more modest homes that they could afford, fuck them, they should have just been irresponsible like everyone else. Currently not owning a home.... a drop in housing prices would suit me just fine. And the "heartfelt concern" coming from a woman who was involved with whitewater.... well that's just funny.

we tax too much as it is. Rather than raise taxes, if anything, they should do a better job actually collecting on the taxes that they're owed, that's only like what 300 billion? And honestly, what does the US government need to spend more money on at a federal level?
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