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And that's why it's a useful drill for learning. Most Tom Dick & Harrys can call a random number in the phone book and get hung up on like you'd expect. That's your reality and so be it. But when you develop social savvy and conversational skills turning a wrong number into a positive experience is just the tip of the iceberg. And that's just one teeeeny tiny example of how the process goes.

i'm so sorry this is your life.
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Interesting perspective from a female non-hater.
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Interesting perspective from a female non-hater.

So anyone who thinks that calling up random women and trying to start conversations with them is weird/creepy is a hater?
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And that's why it's a useful drill for learning. Most Tom Dick & Harrys can call a random number in the phone book and get hung up on like you'd expect. That's your reality and so be it. But when you develop social savvy and conversational skills turning a wrong number into a positive experience is just the tip of the iceberg. And that's just one teeeeny tiny example of how the process goes.

thats just retarded

the entire concept of the game as read by any normal person is to improve yourself and make yourself a better person in general, more interesting hobbies, more involved, outgoing, etc, not to call people in the phonebook.
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Interesting perspective from a female non-hater.

i read the whole article and then wondered to myself how it had any semblance of a relationship to trying to strike up a conversation with women randomly dialed out of the telephone book. oh wait, it doesn't. at all.
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So anyone who thinks that calling up random women and trying to start conversations with them is weird/creepy is a hater?

You misunderstood. You're not calling up random women. You open the phone book, look down, and call a random number. You say something like, "Is Julie there? No? Oh, wrong number. Okay. You know...maybe you can help me anyway. I was calling my friend for movie recommendations and I don't suppose you know of any good movies for taking a girl to see?"

It's small talk 101. That's just that one tiny example of one the tools you use to get used to talking to strangers. If you can't talk on the phone to same faceless person for 30 seconds how on earth are you going to be able to walk over and approach the woman of your dreams, let alone carry on a meaningful conversation and attract her to you. Not everyone is born or develops the gift of gab. Believe it or not some people actually have to purposely work on developing that social skill. That book has a 30 day "workout" for building your social skills in order to get a date. It's just the kind of thing the OP was looking for. If you have no problem getting numbers and going on dates then you probably don't need this stuff. For those who didn't pick up those social skills growing up the only way to learn is to do so through lots and lots of trial and error, formal instruction, joining the social dynamics self-help community, and books like the one I recommend.
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You misunderstood. You're not calling up random women. You open the phone book, look down, and call a random number. You say something like, "Is Julie there? No? Oh, wrong number. Okay, well, hmm... maybe you can help me anyway. I was calling my friend for movie recommendations. I don't suppose you know of any good movies that are out for taking a girl to see?"

It's small talk 101. That's just that one tiny example of one the tools you use to get used to talking to strangers. If you can't talk on the phone to same faceless person for 30 seconds how on earth are you going to be able to walk over and approach the woman of your dreams, let a long carry on a meaningful conversation and attract her to you.

you seem to forget that most people have no desire to speak with random strangers on the phone about nonsense. i'd have already hanged up the phone after "wrong number." it's an exercise in futility.
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you seem to forget that most people have no desire to speak with random strangers on the phone about nonsense. i'd have already hanged up the phone after "wrong number." it's an exercise in futility.

That's the point of the exercise. You get experienced at 1. getting totally shut the fuck down, and 2. talking to random people. Eventually, you'll find someone willing to humor you.

I could actually imagine this working to some extent for really shy people.
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Bingo. And believe it or not, people are actually a lot more cordial and friendly than most people would think. It's like the fear of approach and rejection guys have of walking up to a woman they don't know and trying to talk to them. Most women are not going to bite your head of or yell at you. Most are very polite. Most cases where they're not interested (for whatever reason) they might just be icy or unreceptive. That's normal. Only on rare occasions are they complete arrogant bitches to strangers, and those women aren't usually the kind of people you want to deal with anyway.
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I'm going to say that perhaps he's not site pimping, if only the fact that he's been around since 2007 and those links are rather popular material.

Look Larry, I read up on a lot of that Pick Up stuff about two years back. A lot of it gets your foot in the door of talking to strangers, but the good material tells you to improve yourself physically, emotionally, financially, and spiritually. Those things are what you will have to rely on after you're done doing any mind tricks or playing a drinking game. They will be especially important later on if you want to date someone.

My advice: Be an interesting person. No one wants to try to get some guy who's arms are crossed and silent. But if you make other people laugh or interest them, they will return the favor. It's really that simple.


I agree with this and I also think those Sosuave sites are awesome but the idea of what these people are teaching boils down to becoming the man you want to be and are comfortable being. The "tricks" they talk about are just behaviors that most confident men naturally convey. You'll read some shortcuts or quick fixes like "do this" but once you're happy with the man you are, the behaviors come naturally.

I think SoSuave is great but a lot of guys can take what they teach in the wrong way when they're still very insecure about themselves and have the intention of tricking women. Interestingly enough when you come to think of it women have a lot of information resources about dating (Magazines, Oprah, etc, etc, etc) but when it comes to information for men there is shit like Maxim magazine and then the online PUA community...oh and Tom Leykis.
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You misunderstood. You're not calling up random women. You open the phone book, look down, and call a random number. You say something like, "Is Julie there? No? Oh, wrong number. Okay. You know...maybe you can help me anyway. I was calling my friend for movie recommendations and I don't suppose you know of any good movies for taking a girl to see?"

It's small talk 101. That's just that one tiny example of one the tools you use to get used to talking to strangers. If you can't talk on the phone to same faceless person for 30 seconds how on earth are you going to be able to walk over and approach the woman of your dreams, let alone carry on a meaningful conversation and attract her to you. Not everyone is born or develops the gift of gab. Believe it or not some people actually have to purposely work on developing that social skill. That book has a 30 day "workout" for building your social skills in order to get a date. It's just the kind of thing the OP was looking for. If you have no problem getting numbers and going on dates then you probably don't need this stuff. For those who didn't pick up those social skills growing up the only way to learn is to do so through lots and lots of trial and error, formal instruction, joining the social dynamics self-help community, and books like the one I recommend.

how can she be the woman of my dreams if i havent even spoken to her? and whats this "attract her to you"? shes not a deer im trying to lure to my stand, shes a person. if we are compatible and mutually interested we will know it.
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to get over my shyness i just started talking to strangers whenever i had the chance, usually at work at the checkout desk of a library. It helped improve my small talk skills/ability to express myself a ton, and then i just translated that in to talking to girls i had interest in.

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Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus bro....
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