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Old 02-14-2010, 08:44 PM tegandje is offline  
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i'm a meat eater but i love vegetarian dishes. middle eastern food especially.

there are risks/rewards with a vegan/vegetarian diet like lack of calories and amino acid deficiencies, but with a little research problem solved.

Hummus is friggin delicious
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Old 02-14-2010, 08:48 PM yolo is offline  
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i'm a meat eater but i love vegetarian dishes. middle eastern food especially.

there are risks/rewards with a vegan/vegetarian diet like lack of calories and amino acid deficiencies, but with a little research problem solved.

Hummus is friggin delicious

They could all be replaced especially if you eat nuts especially roasted peanuts which is high in good fats and protein, and helps produce amino acids. Avocado is high in fat too which is also good
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Old 02-14-2010, 09:45 PM hurley griffin is offline  
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anyone have any good middle eastern recipes?

I would kill for some Baklava, and would even spend the exorbant amount of money it would cost me to ship specialty ingredients. But it can't be too hard to find nuts,honey...
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I don't have a recipe, but check for achma and khachapuri. It's awesome georigan cuisine, but it probably needs eggs. I don't know how plant people deal with eggs

As for the meat thing, I can understand not wanting to eat meat because of dietary reasons, but vegetarians are deluding themselves if thy think most meat eaters are simply unaware of how meat is grown. It's fairly simple, the vast majority knows how meat gets on the table, and doesn't give a shit, because meat is delicious.
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I don't limit my diet in any way so I am not a vegetarian but I very rarely eat meat, maybe once a month if that

Why I don't eat meat:
  • It's expensive
  • It is largely produced in an unsustainable manner that I don't agree with (*more on that below)
  • Cooking without meat is easier/simpler
  • Eggs, nurtitional yeast, spirolina, et al provide the same nutritional benefits



*To run a factory farm operation, the animals are pumped full of antibiotics which exit their system and pollute our waterways. The fecal runoff is what causes food contamination issues like the last spinach problem. The amount of feed required for such an operation is only possible when that feed is grown with unnatural fertilizer and pesticides which additionally cause runoff pollution. Feeding cows corn, a grain they cannot naturally digest, compounds these problems greatly.
The system is broken, it just doesn't work on the scale we are forcing it to; yet we, the greater American public, feel the entitlement to continue such a system. This is why I do not participate in it.
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Meat is delicious, i eat it every day. I could never imagine cutting it out of my diet. It's just too tasty for me to not have it. But if its not your thing, good for you.
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I'm probably getting there really soon. I've been trying to eat healthy recently and while I'm by no means becoming a full blown vegan (I use a lot of dairy products and eggs)*, I've noticed I eat less and less meat by the day. I think I've eaten red meat about a dozen times in the last 3 or 4 months. The few times I eat red meat these days is for convenience really. I don't spit on the dish if I'm offered some, but I don't really go out shopping for meat heh.

While I've thought of going vegan for ages due to ethical reasons, I never really got round to that... out of habit really. The idea of eating meat isn't something I'm "philosophically" opposed to, but rather like many said here, the conditions.

I've started eating healthy, and it seems the less meat I eat, the better I feel overall. Going to start shedding other stuff too, as long as it's reasonable. Hey if it works for me, I'm all for it.




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What I find amusing in general is people will be vegan/veggie in one sense but completely devoid of common sense everywhere else. When I bring that point up to them they exclaim "well it's my life, my free will". I simply say "Thank you" and walk away. This is only for those holier than thou types. Normally people will respect your "rules" in life if you respect theirs.

I personally love meat, veggies, beans, grains and wouldn't have it any other way.

It is true certain animals are as dumb as a post while are certain humans We would not be here today as we are if we couldn't futher our species with meat. Being smart today has nothing to do with eating meat, being what we are as humans though does.
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I don't limit my diet in any way so I am not a vegetarian but I very rarely eat meat, maybe once a month if that

Why I don't eat meat:
  • It's expensive
  • It is largely produced in an unsustainable manner that I don't agree with (*more on that below)
  • Cooking without meat is easier/simpler
  • Eggs, nurtitional yeast, spirolina, et al provide the same nutritional benefits



*To run a factory farm operation, the animals are pumped full of antibiotics which exit their system and pollute our waterways. The fecal runoff is what causes food contamination issues like the last spinach problem. The amount of feed required for such an operation is only possible when that feed is grown with unnatural fertilizer and pesticides which additionally cause runoff pollution. Feeding cows corn, a grain they cannot naturally digest, compounds these problems greatly.
The system is broken, it just doesn't work on the scale we are forcing it to; yet we, the greater American public, feel the entitlement to continue such a system. This is why I do not participate in it.
It sounds to me like you are basically a vegetarian and (1) sometimes "give in" and eat meat and (2) don't want to admit you are a vegetarian for whatever reason.
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I'm not a vegetarian because I eat meat; that's the simple fact. I don't eat it for the above reasons but when I do, I enjoy it as a luxury

I think that any rigid prescribed diet (veganism, vegetarianism, raw, caveman, etc) is frankly silly and self serving to ones ego rather than actually having any positive effect. Like most things, moderation is the important factor
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What I find amusing in general is people will be vegan/veggie in one sense but completely devoid of common sense everywhere else. When I bring that point up to them they exclaim "well it's my life, my free will". I simply say "Thank you" and walk away. This is only for those holier than thou types. Normally people will respect your "rules" in life if you respect theirs..

It boggles my mind how many people will rail against eating meat or drinking artificial sweeteners on health concerns...then go light up their cigarettes.


On the other end of the equation is people who try to DEMAND that vegetarians eat meat. No idea why they care so much.
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My favorite is the vegan/vegetarian that doesn't eat meat, but eats a lot of products with meat byproducts in them.

I ruined Kimchi for this korean girl who thought it was vegan.
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My favorite is the vegan/vegetarian that doesn't eat meat, but eats a lot of products with meat byproducts in them.

I ruined Kimchi for this korean girl who thought it was vegan.

I ruin cheese and products that contain geletin for people on a daily basis.
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I ruin cheese and products that contain geletin for people on a daily basis.

Ground up bones & hoofs

Cottage cheese is excellent
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