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Yep. Even then, I think McCain's more American than anyone after what he went through in Nam.

and not only a prerequisite to being president, it totally makes him 110% qualified for it!
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and not only a prerequisite to being president, it totally makes him 110% qualified for it!

I'm not saying it has anything to do with qualifications of being President, although if you want to talk qualifications I hardly think 2 years of Senate experience makes you "qualified" either.

Then again, people have voted in stupider people for stupider reasons so what do I know.
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I'm not saying it has anything to do with qualifications of being President, although if you want to talk qualifications I hardly think 2 years of Senate experience makes you "qualified" either.

Then again, people have voted in stupider people for stupider reasons so what do I know.

i'm voting for me, because fuck them all, i love me more.
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i'm voting for me, because fuck them all, i love me more.

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My sister was born at Guantanamo Bay Naval Hospital, and she is considered a "natural born" citizen, because all U.S. military bases on foreign soil are considered "sovereign U.S. territory"

I don't see how this could be any different, especially with 2 american parents.
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My sister was born at Guantanamo Bay Naval Hospital, and she is considered a "natural born" citizen, because all U.S. military bases on foreign soil are considered "sovereign U.S. territory"

I don't see how this could be any different, especially with 2 american parents.

This exact thing (Obama and McCain's citizenship) came up in the Pit a while back, with some interesting results. I used to think the same thing, but I was wrong.

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Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.
Acquisition and Retention of U.S. Citizenship and Nationality

I found that kind of amazing, as I think I'm fairly well informed about the Constitution and US law in general, and I thought the exact opposite. I've been misinformed for years.

It's just that usually it ends up not really being an issue, because:

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Since 1790, there have been two prerequisites for transmitting U.S. citizenship to children born abroad:

(1) At least one natural parent must have been a U.S. citizen when the
child was born. The only exception is for a posthumous child.

(2) The U.S. citizen parent(s) must have resided or been physically
present in the United States for the time required by the law in
effect when the child was born.
Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by Birth Abroad to U.S. Citizen Parent

Since it's going to be rare that somebody is born on a US military base without at least one parent who's an American citizen, the rest doesn't really matter. But it's crazy how something I've been telling people for years is a total myth. Joke's on me
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On a random note I thought Congress passed a law saying he was or something stupid. I know it was brought up atleast in the house.
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Im actually scared from the rnc..they seem to be boosting their stupidity. (sp) Obama stay alive plz
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The "born in the USA" requirement is the dumbest thing in US politics anyways. Somehow a kid born in Wisconsin, moves somewhere else when he's 6 months old, and then moves back to the US when he's 35 can run for the Presidency
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