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yeah the truth sucks. You DID think housing only went up, that oil would never get to $147, that the government wouldn't take on over $7 trillion in liabilities in 2 months. The sad part is your laughter really hides your hidden fear that you have no idea what is going on. That you really do fear the fate of the US. It really is that sad and I feel bad for you, I really do, I'm not being sarcastic.
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it's insane to believe that this is a 'conservative' government that's doing this. all the distinctions between democrat and republican, and all the worthless time spent arguing between them, should be examined here. this is a truly bizarre turn of events IMO.
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lol. If your measure of a fascist State is the government being beholden to the financial interests over the good of the people than the US has almost always been a fascist State since WWI and conservatives and centrists have been enabling such a State just as long. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with the governments plans to counter the financial crisis but it's a little ridiculous to bitch about this being the straw that broke the camels back.


Spare us the pretense that liberals don't try to "promote financial stability" through intervention. They're just as "big government" as the rest of Washington.
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Spare us the pretense that liberals don't try to "promote financial stability" through intervention. They're just as "big government" as the rest of Washington.

This is true, but based on what the bush administration is doing now, where the fuck is the line being drawn?
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This is true, but based on what the bush administration is doing now, where the fuck is the line being drawn?

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yeah the truth sucks. You DID think housing only went up, that oil would never get to $147, that the government wouldn't take on over $7 trillion in liabilities in 2 months. The sad part is your laughter really hides your hidden fear that you have no idea what is going on. That you really do fear the fate of the US. It really is that sad and I feel bad for you, I really do, I'm not being sarcastic.

I never thought any of that shit you retard, I just think by your own definition of fascism here that throwing a hissy fit over this particular outrage is being ignorant of history. The US has put corporate interests ahead of the good of its own people for a long time.
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Replace the word "fascist" with "socialist" in your OP and you are closer to the truth.
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Replace the word "fascist" with "socialist" in your OP and you are closer to the truth.

No, socialism implies social welfare. There is no social welfare. Fascism is the direct link between corporations and government. Basically, corporations are on the same level as the government. That is NOT socialism.

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This is where we are heading, not healthcare for all and everyone gets a lolly pop.
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Spare us the pretense that liberals don't try to "promote financial stability" through intervention. They're just as "big government" as the rest of Washington.
Some do. I will support intervention if I believe it's in the best interest of the people to do so. But I would never have supported deregulating (or ignoring the need for new regulation) or the privatization of Fannie May and Freddie Mac only to end up subsidizing a private corporation in the first place.
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it's insane to believe that this is a 'conservative' government that's doing this. all the distinctions between democrat and republican, and all the worthless time spent arguing between them, should be examined here. this is a truly bizarre turn of events IMO.

Which is why I said "If everyone here doesn't know who their overlord is, you do now." This will end up being bi-partisan. Barack and McCain are so different! Change you can believe in!
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No, socialism implies social welfare. There is no social welfare.

blow that fucking nonsense right out of your diseased asshole .

Keeping 10's or 100's of thousands of people employed that otherwise would be SOL by the injection of a TRILLION DOLLARS of my fucking $$$ into the banking system is the textbook definition of socialism.
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blow that fucking nonsense right out of your diseased asshole .

Keeping that otherwise would be SOL by the injection of a of my fucking into the is the textbook definition of socialism.

i'm pretty sure you've never read any marx. here, i've pulled out all the parts of your statement that are completely incongruous with a "textbook definition of socialism."
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Replace the word "fascist" with "socialist" in your OP and you are closer to the truth.

QFT....the government is owning what were semi-private companies.
Keep in mind we still have a lot more banks/institutions that are in financial trouble.
General Motors may end up being called Government Motors.







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