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Please don't buy into the media's panic mongering
No no, please do. I'm getting great affiliate commissions on Tamiflu sales.
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edit: p.s. the natural course for any virus is to mutate into airborne transmission. this is essentially the internal "goal" of all virii. but hey lucky for us we adapt just like they do. take a fucking class
If H5N1 mutates furthur and gains the ability to spread from human-to-human through the air we are kind of screwed. The mortality rate is over 50% and AFAIK there is currently no treatment. If this turns into a full-scale pandemic I've heard estimates of several hudred million deaths worldwide.

Edit: interestingly, there are several anti-viral drugs available which are effective against avian flu, but China has been putting one such drug into its chicken's food for years (against international livestock regulations). Now that drug, amantadine IIRC, is ineffective. Thanks China!
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this from http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=2099572005



'Inevitable' bird flu set to kill 50,000 - chief medical officer

STEPHEN MCGINTY


Key points
• Sir Liam Donaldson says a bird flu outbreak is inevitable
• Scientists fear the H5N1 strain could mutate and be passed between humans
• The government has put out to tender an order of two to three million doses of the vaccine

Key quote
"It is when [not if]. But there is a lot we can do to prepare. If we look back to the last pandemic in 1968-9, we didn't have some measures that we now have, like anti-viral drugs." - Sir Liam Donaldson



Story in full A PANDEMIC will inevitably spread from bird flu outbreaks and could cause the deaths of 50,000 or more people in the UK, according to the government's chief medical officer.

Sir Liam Donaldson insisted that an outbreak of bird flu in Britain was a question of "when, not if" and that the death toll could be a lot higher depending on the seriousness of the strain of the virus.
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this from http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=2099572005



'Inevitable' bird flu set to kill 50,000 - chief medical officer

STEPHEN MCGINTY


Key points
Sir Liam Donaldson says a bird flu outbreak is inevitable
Scientists fear the H5N1 strain could mutate and be passed between humans
The government has put out to tender an order of two to three million doses of the vaccine

Key quote
"It is when [not if]. But there is a lot we can do to prepare. If we look back to the last pandemic in 1968-9, we didn't have some measures that we now have, like anti-viral drugs." - Sir Liam Donaldson



Story in full A PANDEMIC will inevitably spread from bird flu outbreaks and could cause the deaths of 50,000 or more people in the UK, according to the government's chief medical officer.

Sir Liam Donaldson insisted that an outbreak of bird flu in Britain was a question of "when, not if" and that the death toll could be a lot higher depending on the seriousness of the strain of the virus.
so this is only in britain right
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The above article states nothing new, only an opinion. It is nothing but dumb hype.
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Experts say threat from virus is unprecedented


By Steve Connor, Science Editor

Published: 18 October 2005



The bird flu virus that has arrived in Europe poses an unprecedented threat, with experts warning that the number of human infections reported in Asia could be just a small proportion of the actual figure.

One of Britain's leading specialists in influenza said a pandemic strain of bird flu that can spread between humans is more likely to arise as more birds become infected.

Sir John Skehel, a distinguished influenza expert, said that in his experience there has not been a bird flu virus quite like the H5N1 strain that is affecting south-east Asia, Turkey and Romania. "This is an unusual situation," Sir John admitted. "Since we've been recording there hasn't been the spread of a single virus as widely as the H5 virus."

The World Health Organisation said that the current outbreaks of bird flu in south-east Asia are the largest and most severe on record. "Never before in the history of this disease have so many countries been simultaneously affected, resulting in the loss of so many birds," a WHO spokesman said.

In addition to the speed of its spread among birds, the H5N1 strain of bird flu can also infect humans and is unusually lethal, Sir John told journalists ahead of a mission of British experts to China and Vietnam next week. Thousands of birds - migratory species as well as domestic poultry - have been infected by the H5N1 strain of bird flu, which is also known to have infected at least 120 people, killing half of them.

So far there have been no reports of people in Turkey or Europe being infected by the latest outbreaks but Sir John warned that the risk to Europeans has increased "slightly".

Sir John, director of the National Institute for Medical Research, in Mill Hill, north London, where the influenza virus was first isolated in 1933, said that one of the great unanswered questions was how many people are really infected with the bird flu virus.

"How are people checking in the Far East for people who have recovered from the infection?" he asked. "Are the total number of people who have been infected the tip of the iceberg and, beneath them, are there are a lot of others who have been infected? It is an important question."

Sir John warned that trying to predict when and where the next flu pandemic would occur was a dangerous game. "I think it is anybody's guess," he said. "The more it spreads, the more it is likely to infect ... You just can't predict where the next one is coming from."

The British delegation to China and Vietnam will investigate the measures being taken to monitor the spread of H5N1 and in particular the possibility that some people may be infected without developing serious enough symptoms to seek medical help.

They will spend 10 days looking at ways to improving collaboration with scientists in China as well as increasing the surveillance of potentially infected birds.

Sir John said: "We want to know how the Chinese are responding, how they are looking at their birds, how they are looking at their people, how they are set up and are there ways we can help."

Professor Colin Blakemore, chief executive of the Medical Research Council, said announcing the decision to go to China and Vietnam was not a panic response to the latest outbreaks in Europe because the trip was arranged many weeks ago. "Vigilance and attention without panic is what we need," he said, adding: "We've been planning this trip for some time."

In a statement to MPs, Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said £200m had been committed to fighting the illness and, as yet, there was no "direct threat" to the British population. But she added: "We are of course planning for the very real risk of a very significant increase in the number of hospital admissions."


The bird flu virus that has arrived in Europe poses an unprecedented threat, with experts warning that the number of human infections reported in Asia could be just a small proportion of the actual figure.

One of Britain's leading specialists in influenza said a pandemic strain of bird flu that can spread between humans is more likely to arise as more birds become infected.

Sir John Skehel, a distinguished influenza expert, said that in his experience there has not been a bird flu virus quite like the H5N1 strain that is affecting south-east Asia, Turkey and Romania. "This is an unusual situation," Sir John admitted. "Since we've been recording there hasn't been the spread of a single virus as widely as the H5 virus."

The World Health Organisation said that the current outbreaks of bird flu in south-east Asia are the largest and most severe on record. "Never before in the history of this disease have so many countries been simultaneously affected, resulting in the loss of so many birds," a WHO spokesman said.

In addition to the speed of its spread among birds, the H5N1 strain of bird flu can also infect humans and is unusually lethal, Sir John told journalists ahead of a mission of British experts to China and Vietnam next week. Thousands of birds - migratory species as well as domestic poultry - have been infected by the H5N1 strain of bird flu, which is also known to have infected at least 120 people, killing half of them.

So far there have been no reports of people in Turkey or Europe being infected by the latest outbreaks but Sir John warned that the risk to Europeans has increased "slightly".

Sir John, director of the National Institute for Medical Research, in Mill Hill, north London, where the influenza virus was first isolated in 1933, said that one of the great unanswered questions was how many people are really infected with the bird flu virus.


"How are people checking in the Far East for people who have recovered from the infection?" he asked. "Are the total number of people who have been infected the tip of the iceberg and, beneath them, are there are a lot of others who have been infected? It is an important question."

Sir John warned that trying to predict when and where the next flu pandemic would occur was a dangerous game. "I think it is anybody's guess," he said. "The more it spreads, the more it is likely to infect ... You just can't predict where the next one is coming from."

The British delegation to China and Vietnam will investigate the measures being taken to monitor the spread of H5N1 and in particular the possibility that some people may be infected without developing serious enough symptoms to seek medical help.

They will spend 10 days looking at ways to improving collaboration with scientists in China as well as increasing the surveillance of potentially infected birds.

Sir John said: "We want to know how the Chinese are responding, how they are looking at their birds, how they are looking at their people, how they are set up and are there ways we can help."

Professor Colin Blakemore, chief executive of the Medical Research Council, said announcing the decision to go to China and Vietnam was not a panic response to the latest outbreaks in Europe because the trip was arranged many weeks ago. "Vigilance and attention without panic is what we need," he said, adding: "We've been planning this trip for some time."

In a statement to MPs, Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said £200m had been committed to fighting the illness and, as yet, there was no "direct threat" to the British population. But she added: "We are of course planning for the very real risk of a very significant increase in the number of hospital admissions."
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