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This is how I feel.

Plus Romney is a two-faced corporate pirate who has zero humanitarian ideals. He's like a horny 20 year old who will say anything to get you in bed....


As per my example earlier:

This is how I feel:

If we weren't in a recovery phase after doubling the national debt by... what, $5 trillion? Than uhhhh... Yeah, thats impossible.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:55 AM s0me0nesmind1 is offline  
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yeah I especially liked how the republicans tried to use Clarence Thomas's stalker to derail his appointment


oh wait.

Nice tu quoque.

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are you fucking kidding me? gibsy wants us to believe that the republicans just invented ploy.
That's why I said it was a record number you doof. Occasional nominees have turned into political fights in the past. You'll notice Thomas A) received an up/down vote B) was approved. But the Republicans are applying it routinely, to a huge fraction of the people Obama puts forward. It's an unprecedented application of advice and consent and is really negatively affecting the function of the courts and government.
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This is how I feel:

If we weren't in a recovery phase after doubling the national debt by... what, $5 trillion? Than uhhhh... Yeah, thats impossible.

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just remember, everything good that happens during the next presidency was caused by the president if you like him, everything bad if you don't
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I'm allready decided.

I'm voting Ron Paul in the primary and Mitt Romney in the general election,


...but I think Barack Obama will win.
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just remember, everything good that happens during the next presidency was caused by the president if you like him, everything bad if you don't
The question is...if you hold the top office for eight years can you still blame everything that goes wrong on the president that came before you?
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just remember, everything good that happens during the next presidency was caused by the president if you like him, everything bad if you don't

unfortunately the country is not like mitt romney. you can't just shake it when we get a new president and start over from scratch.
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The question is...if you hold the top office for eight years can you still blame everything that goes wrong on the president that came before you?

depends on how bad the state of things were when you got in office. barack inherited a country in the midst of free fall into the toilet and it was already 90% there
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The question is...if you hold the top office for eight years can you still blame everything that goes wrong on the president that came before you?

If you are still dealing with the shitstorm of a fuckfest that your predecessor caused, maybe.


I want to play. I have questions:


Why the fuck would anyone in their right mind vote for a super-rich, vulture-capitalist, fake asshole named Willard, who has no fucking clue what life is actually like for 99.9% of the country, in the hopes that he and his corporate cronies are somehow going to enact policies which are going to be good for middle class working families who make less in a year than Willard makes in interest in a day?
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The Mitt Romney income calculator: http://www.slate.com/articles/busine...r_salary_.html

Find out just how poor you really are. For example, if you earn $50K a year, did you know that it would take you 433 years 2 months 21 days 23 hours 28 minutes and 7 seconds to make as much money as Mitt made...


in 2010.



Still think you are gonna be rich any day now?
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The question is...if you hold the top office for eight years can you still blame everything that goes wrong on the president that came before you?

Except no one is doing that. The hyperbole doesn't fit reality. It's undeniable that the economy takes a while to recover especially when we're still spending money on wars that were started by the previous administration. To pretend that all of that can be fixed with a handwave is absurd.

Just like in 2016 the president of that time will have to deal with the policies enacted over these eight years. The country doesn't simply reset every time someone new takes the big chair. Policies that were put in place eighty years ago are still affecting the current administration, affected the last one, and will affect the next one.

But no one, not one goddamn person, is blaming everything that goes wrong on the president that came before. To suggest that is to make fun of the "messiah" references when the only people who ever used that term were his opponents, not his supporters.
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The question is...if you hold the top office for eight years can you still blame everything that goes wrong on the president that came before you?

If you have the backing of the press you can.
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Nice tu quoque.


That's why I said it was a record number you doof. Occasional nominees have turned into political fights in the past. You'll notice Thomas A) received an up/down vote B) was approved. But the Republicans are applying it routinely, to a huge fraction of the people Obama puts forward. It's an unprecedented application of advice and consent and is really negatively affecting the function of the courts and government.

funny thing about breaking records. Someone had to set the record in the first place.

but what you said was

"That shit didn't used to be acceptable, apparently it is now."


It was always acceptable when the "correct side" was doing it. Just like jerrymandering and other dirty tricks.
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Acknowledge your mistake, morlock.
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In 1975, the Democratic Senate majority, having achieved a net gain of four seats in the 1974 Senate elections to a strength of 61 (with an additional Independent caucusing with them for a total of 62), reduced the necessary supermajority to three-fifths (60 out of 100).[9] However, as a compromise to those who were against the revision, the new rule also changed the requirement for determining the number of votes needed for a cloture motion's passage from those Senators "present and voting" to those Senators "duly chosen and sworn". Thus, 60 votes for cloture would be necessary regardless of whether every Senator voted. The only time a lesser number would become acceptable is when a Senate seat is vacant. (For example, if there were two vacancies in the Senate, thereby making 98 Senators "duly chosen and sworn", it would only take 59 votes for a cloture motion to pass.)[7]
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