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a) speaking from your own personal experience as well, which does not mean it's accurate with the experiences of everyone else

b) generally it is less in-your-face now, and more in tiny ways constantly. it is a matter of pride to say "I'm so bad at math" or "I hate math," women say it all the time without even thinking, including teachers. They often don't realize the profound effect it can have on the students/kids. It's not like their one instance is necessarily going to suddenly make it so, but after you hear it often enough, you internalize it.
or you know, black ghetto culture, in which its nearly a crime to want to be educated or learn anything. In either gender.
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or you know, black ghetto culture, in which its nearly a crime to want to be educated or learn anything. In either gender.

never said this wasn't a problem, so I'm not sure where you're going with that.
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im not sure either :/
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or you know, black ghetto culture, in which its nearly a crime to want to be educated or learn anything. In either gender.

Or you know, black students being treated inferior to white students, even by black staff/faculty. It happened in my white-minority high school.

The educational race gap is a multifaceted problem for which there is no single solution, but I would bet that other issues (school funding, racism, poverty, overall shittiness of education system, etc) are much more significant factors than the typical scapegoat "black culture." I would rather address those issues first, as they benefit everyone, than try to fix something which may not even really be a problem.
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theres tons more opportunities for black people than there is white people or asians in education
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theres tons more opportunities for black people than there is white people or asians in education

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theres tons more opportunities for black people than there is white people or asians in education

If everyone started on a level playing field, yes
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right pyramid , affirmative action doesn't exist
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right pyramid , affirmative action doesn't exist

Yes, the minorities are keeping whitey down. White people are only a 2/3rds majority of college students instead of the entirety of them.

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and minorities dont make up 1/3 of the population. Unless you count the asians that dont get affirmative action spots because they do too well in school.

dont be a bigger idiot than obama's man juice makes you
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and minorities dont make up 1/3 of the population. Unless you count the asians that dont get affirmative action spots because they do too well in school.

dont be a bigger idiot than obama's man juice makes you

You are right, non-whites are only 28% of the population. Not 33%.

Unless you count Hispanics as non whites in which case minorities represent 36% of the population.

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You are right, non-whites are only 28% of the population. Not 33%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra..._and_ethnicity

now reconcile any breakdown against which are considered non white for purposes of affirmative action.

like I said. Lay of the Obama juice
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See my edit: Unless you count Hispanics as non whites in which case minorities represent 36% of the population.
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now reconcile any breakdown against which are considered non white for purposes of affirmative action.

Not everyone goes to college. You are assuming that every white person who doesn't go to college didn't go because their seat was given to a minority. Also that every white person who loses out to a minority was somehow robbed because the minority was not as qualified.

That's just stupid.
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