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slinging your AR

I recently got my first AR-15 (still a little excited about it) and I picked up a cheap $5 sling that was available in the shop at the time and when I got home and slung it up it didn't seem to feel quite right. My AR is a basic flat top with the cheap 6 position stock. No matter how I adjusted the stock sling mount I couldn't get it to feel comfortable when I pulled the weapon from a front slung position to a firing position because the sling or sling mount would bunch up in the way and prevent proper shouldering.

Now someone has probably already thought of this but first I tried mounting the sling directly through the horizontal slit in the stock and around the top but this took up too much of the rather short sling and still bunched up. Then I took the stock sling mount off the bottom of the stock and mounted it to the slit in the stock with the included screw. This worked much better and allowed enough slack to fit properly and allows proper shouldering as well as comfortable front slung wear. I'm still looking for a good washer and lock nut to go on it in my collection of fasteners. Anyway, maybe this will be useful to anyone else out there looking for a cheap sling solution that is actually comfortable to wear and use.

I'm already looking at better, more costly solutions to go with the rail system I'm ordering but for the meantime this works nicely. I wear a rifle slung when I go out for cigarettes at night around here because we have plenty of coyotes and I've seen a large lynx on the property before and very recently I spotted what appeared to be a wolf checking me out just 15 or so yards from me and my new puppy when I was naked. I'm not certain it was a wolf but it was definitely a large predator and not too terribly afraid of me apparently. I have also had other neighbors report that they have seen what they believe is the same wolf or large predator on their property multiple times. Another neighbor believes we may have a mountain lion in the area, their fairly large dog was taken by a predator recently while it was out roaming their property.

Anyway, I'm rambling way off my initial point. Here's some pics:







To make this thread more useful perhaps you can share your sling solutions/preferences too. I am still in the market and also still learning.
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Vickers 2pt slings w/ sewed QD push-button or get the fuck out.

Link for us noobs?

I was looking at something like this combo:

sling:
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...product_id=941
rear sling mount:
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...&product_id=52
forearm:
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...product_id=854
and a couple of these:
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...product_id=225
one for now and one for when I upgrade the stock, or just for an extra if I need it.
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The sling I was looking at was from gear sector.
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Er yeah, that's not how the rear sling attaches.

What are you needing a sling for?
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That's what I'm using.
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pyramid, I'm getting the impression you're slinging it with the muzzle up. Try carrying it with the muzzle down, and with the sling wrapped through the butt as it's designed. See if that fixes your issue.
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I tried a bunch of different ways on the C7 and C8 using the issued sling, I found I preferred just a simple loop through the butt then slung across the chest. It's left free to dangle at your side when carrying shit, but is right there to be brought up to shoulder ready to go.



C8 is a carbine tho and works best with the stock shortened, doesn't get in the way too much when slung.
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Er yeah, that's not how the rear sling attaches.

What are you needing a sling for?

I know, I was just trying out something new. With the sling through the standard metal loop on the bottom of the butt the sling and sling buckle would bunch up against my shoulder when I pulled the rifle up to a shooting position.

I wear the rifle on a sling when I go out late at night for cigarettes. I'm out in the woods and we have plenty of predators around. I'm not really worried about anything coming after me so close to the house but when I have my new puppy with me I worry about something trying to pick him off as he scampers around the dimly lit yard.

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pyramid, I'm getting the impression you're slinging it with the muzzle up. Try carrying it with the muzzle down, and with the sling wrapped through the butt as it's designed. See if that fixes your issue.

Nope, muzzle down. When I wrapped my cheap sling through and around the butt stock slit it seemed to take away too much slack. I'm getting a quality sling soon that will be mounted properly, I was just playing with options with what I had. The way I have it set up in the pics lets me carry comfortably with the amount of sling I have and when I pull the rifle up to a firing position the sling buckle stays out of the way. There is so little slack in my cheap sling that the buckle rests right next to the metal attachment ring.


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I tried a bunch of different ways on the C7 and C8 using the issued sling, I found I preferred just a simple loop through the butt then slung across the chest. It's left free to dangle at your side when carrying shit, but is right there to be brought up to shoulder ready to go.



C8 is a carbine tho and works best with the stock shortened, doesn't get in the way too much when slung.

Hmm, I'll have to give that method a try. That's a single point sling method, right? That might work better with the limited amount of sling I have to work with.
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These are really popular for those of us that have M4's. They do a great job of staying out of the way and are more accessible than a 3-point which we're (USMC) finally moving away from.

I've got this one. You can also get the accessory mash clip and attach it to something stationary with no loop (i.e. a flak) which I guess would make it a no-point sling, but it's a dream when you're hopping in and out of something cramped like a HMMWV or AAV.
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Update:

I finally settled on something. I got a two point with quick detach and bungee cords, etc. I also took the strap mount that usually goes through/around the butt stock and mounted it directly to the buffer tube. This actually allowed me to wrap it fully two times around and through the buckle to make it nice and secure. Anyone who can't permanently modify a rifle and wants a mount there might want to try that. The fore-end mount is a quick detach clipped into the fore-end rail. For you guys who can't modify your guns, the standard front mount works too but the gun tends to sag to a more level position over time with the front mount there. That may be good or bad, I dunno but I prefer it if the gun rests more vertically with the butt closer to my shoulder.

I feel this setup gives me the best shooting comfort and mobility as well as carry comfort. I had to shorten the adjustable part of the rig somewhat by cutting some of the nylon out and then knotting it because even at the shortest setting the rig was hanging at my waist. I'm not really a small person (6'0" and 200lbs) and I wear some pretty bulky clothing when I go out at night so I have no idea what kind of crazy armor this thing was made to fit over but I feel for whoever has to wear it.

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EDIT:

LOL, forgot to do a functionality check. The mount on the buffer tube blocked the charging handle. It's back to the end of the butt for now. Doh!

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