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Laser Eye Surgery

I just went to a consultation at Lasik MD in Ottawa today. After a quick search on Google I've made my decision and chose this place. Anyways they say I was a candidate for two procedures and they are the following.

LASIK Advanced Custom Wavefront - $3580CDN
Standard LASIK - $2587CDN

For everyone who's had laser eye surgery how bad was your vision and what options did you choose? My appointment for the actual surgery is on the 22nd of April, however I don't have to make a decision on which procedure I want until the day of.
Old 04-14-2010, 03:38 PM fullvietFX is offline  
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I did a ton of research before my lasik. Lasik technology differs and before you drop the cash see if they do full laser or not.

You do not want Standard Lasik.... AGAIN you dont want standard lasik. The way standard lasik works in simple terms, is they take a image of a "perfect" eye and burn that onto yours. Youll have better vision no doubt, but its not the best it could be and are prone to suffer more side effects.

Custom Wave front lasik is when they send a beam of light into your eye and map how it is reflected/seen etc. They then take this info and make a custom lasik map to burn onto your eye. This is much less prone to side effects.

Also check and see if they have a full laser procedure. You do not want them cutting your eye with a blade (keratometer I think) you want the laser to do that also leads to less side effects.

Side effects are real, no joke, and you will be living with the effects of this surgery for the rest of your life or paying to have it touched up later.

Side Effects:
"Halo's" around light
Poor night time contrast
Distortions in vision

Most side effects will be most apparent at night. However, think of more than driving and street lights, think about watching a movie in a theater or at night. Using a computer in the dark etc.

I had a procedure done call Ortho K which is reversible, but I had all the side effects that a shitty lasik job would give you and trust me you dont want them.

I paid 5k for my lasik 9 months ago. Went to the best guy in my area with the best equipment. Think about why are you going to this guy. Is he the best? Does he have the most up to date equipment?

Myself, I went from horrible astigmatism and a huge refraction to 20/20 in each eye with no noticeable side effects. You dont cheap out on this type of stuff.
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The first poster hit all the high points for side effects. I had PRK done in August and I had a couple of months in recovery mode with those abovementioned side effects. I could see moments after surgery but I was on sick leave for a week to allow for my eyes to adjust and heal. The people from my work who had Lasik were back at work with 2-3 days so it's a faster healing process.

If you can get the custom wave Lasik - DO IT. Totally worth the money. So is the surgery - I went in with worse than 20/400 in each eye and I'm at 20/20 now.

Oh forgot, I wasn't a candidate for Lasik hence I went the PRK route but you seem to be good for the Lasik.
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I had the equivalent of the "LASIK Advanced Custom Wavefront - $3580CDN" about two years ago.

Cost about the same too, and like the other posters said, you definitely get what you pay for. I was recovered and up and running within 2 weeks good as with glasses. Didnt get any halo'ing or bad night vision like some, basically worked out perfectly.

With that price, I got lifetime corrections for free, and a year or free exams.
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Sounds good guys thanks a lot for the advice, I thought they were just charging more money for the exact same process with the "custom" one since they use the same laser. I'm going to call and see if it's full laser.

EDIT: Figment I called in and they indeed have full laser. I appreciate the input thanks guys.

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Old 04-15-2010, 01:25 PM fullvietFX is offline  
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I heard that PRK is prone to less side effects than Lasik but the downside is the long recovery time.

Also, isn't PRK approved for Air Force pilots and Lasik is not? There must be some reason behind this.
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I heard that PRK is prone to less side effects than Lasik but the downside is the long recovery time.

Also, isn't PRK approved for Air Force pilots and Lasik is not? There must be some reason behind this.
None of those statements are true.
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None of those statements are true.

Those statements are outdated*

LASIK is now approved for the Air Force, NASA, police work, etc. with the new technology and time-proven-ness

Skimmed the thread, but here are my two comments:
- Don't get the cheap shit. You have one set of eyes. Don't be a jew and get some inferior work done. Also, make sure your doctor is pro.
- It feels awkward. Its not painful, but its definitely uncomfortable for the ~3 minutes total you're actually getting worked on. "Painless" == true. "You don't feel it" == they must have gotten some crazy anesthetic I didn't get.
- Your first week will be pretty disappointing but it clears up quickly for the first week or two, then even more for over the next several months.

Anyway, worth it. I'd do it again in an instant.
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Those statements are outdated*

LASIK is now approved for the Air Force, NASA, police work, etc. with the new technology and time-proven-ness

Skimmed the thread, but here are my two comments:
- Don't get the cheap shit. You have one set of eyes. Don't be a jew and get some inferior work done. Also, make sure your doctor is pro.
- It feels awkward. Its not painful, but its definitely uncomfortable for the ~3 minutes total you're actually getting worked on. "Painless" == true. "You don't feel it" == they must have gotten some crazy anesthetic I didn't get.
- Your first week will be pretty disappointing but it clears up quickly for the first week or two, then even more for over the next several months.

Anyway, worth it. I'd do it again in an instant.

Could you provide some citations here regarding the Air Force? Good friend of mine is going into the Airforce literally right now and they told him that only PRK is allowed and that their doctors have to do it.
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Could you provide some citations here regarding the Air Force? Good friend of mine is going into the Airforce literally right now and they told him that only PRK is allowed and that their doctors have to do it.

Honestly I just "read it somewhere" but here is some google.

http://www.google.com/search?q=air+force+lasik

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May 27 2007
After years of study, the Air Force has decided to change their long-standing policy which disqualified applicants who have had LASIK surgery from flight training and navigator training.
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The results of the study are finally in, and the Air Force has found that there was little to no effect on LASIK-treated eyes when subjected to high G-forces of combat fighter aircraft, the wind blast experienced during aircraft ejection, or exposure to high altitude.
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Posted : Tuesday May 29, 2007 20:08:00 EDT

People who have had LASIK corrective eye surgery are now eligible to apply for aviation and aviation-related jobs, the Air Force announced Thursday.

The change took effect Monday after studies showed there was little or no difference between LASIK-treated eyes and untreated eyes when subjected to the wind blast experienced during aircraft ejection or exposure to high altitude.
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The change also removes the altitude and high-performance aircraft restrictions for people who have had LASIK.

The Air Force is recommending two particular types of LASIK surgery for aviation candidates: Wave Front Guided Photorefractive Keratectomy, or WFG-PRK, and Wave Front Guided Laser In-Situ Keratomileusis, or WFG-LASIK, using the femtosecond laser.
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CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida, September 21, 2007 -- The National Aeronautics and Space Agency (NASA) has approved All-Laser Lasik technologies for use on U.S. astronauts. The NASA decision was made following review of extensive military clinical data, which showed the combination of femtosecond laser for Lasik flap creation and wavefront-guided excimer laser for corneal sculpting provides superior safety and vision.
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"NASA's approval is further evidence that today's Lasik exceeds all established standards of safety and effectiveness," said Steven Schallhorn, M.D., retired captain of the U.S. Navy, investigator in multiple studies involving use of Lasik and other refractive surgeries for treatment of nearsightedness, farsightedness and astigmatism, and Medical Director for Optical Express. "NASA followed the Naval Aviation clinical studies closely with a particular interest in both safety and quality of vision under extreme conditions. Wavefront guided and femtosecond lasers were proven to provide excellent safety with consistent visual results of 20/20 or better. Lasik was able to withstand even the most extreme rigors of warfare and flight. All surgical procedures have risks, but with this exceptional track record, the average consumer has nothing to fear from Lasik."
edit: ^ last one is a little sensationalist because its from a pro-lasik web, but you can google for more details.
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Had PRK with wavefront done in Mar 05. $4500 US. I didn't see right for 3 days, until they pulled the protective contact lenses out (that I didn't know were there. Thanks, Valium!)

I went from 20/200 and 20/400 to 20/20.

I chose PRK because at the time, it required a waiver for Army flight training, and LASIK required an exception to policy. (sounds the same, but big difference). I'd probably still choose PRK today because there's no flap. I've been to an optometrist/mologist who pretty much asked me if I was sure I got laser surgery, because he couldn't tell. That's what i call a good job.
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PRK here, $2600 with fancy wave something machine analysis.
Had a work/insurance discount with this particular ophthalmologist, which was good, since his was the practice I liked best of the 3 I went in and had pre-screens and interviews with.
Summer 2008.

My cornea was too thin, risky to do LASIK.
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I had PRK done in October of last year. Recovery was slower than Lasik, and it was a lil uncomfortable for the few days after. I was wearing sunglasses non stop for two days around the house and spent most of the time sleeping or listening to audio books.

Anywho, I was good to go about 4 days later and back at work. I spend all day in front of a computer, so for about 2 weeks I had to take a quick 5 minute break after staring at a screen for an hour or so. Nothing big really.

I didn't/don't have any issues with halos and night time vision issues that other complain about. At least none that's noticeable to me. My sister who got PRK as well 3 years ago doesn't suffer from them either.

As for PRK vs Lasik, I was a candidate for both, but went with Lasik because of the lower chances of things going wrong. They are both very highly effective, but PRK is just a lil less risky because there is no flap.

I got mine done at the Bochner Eye Institute in Toronto.

Either way, good luck and enjoy the freedom of no glasses/contacts. Even 6 months out now, I catch myself trying to take my glasses off before going into the shower. Feels good looking like an idiot in that situation

Disclaimer: I have a family member who work at Bochner, so I didn't really shop around.
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I had PRK done in October of last year. Recovery was slower than Lasik, and it was a lil uncomfortable for the few days after. I was wearing sunglasses non stop for two days around the house and spent most of the time sleeping or listening to audio books.

Anywho, I was good to go about 4 days later and back at work. I spend all day in front of a computer, so for about 2 weeks I had to take a quick 5 minute break after staring at a screen for an hour or so. Nothing big really.

I didn't/don't have any issues with halos and night time vision issues that other complain about. At least none that's noticeable to me. My sister who got PRK as well 3 years ago doesn't suffer from them either.

As for PRK vs Lasik, I was a candidate for both, but went with Lasik because of the lower chances of things going wrong. They are both very highly effective, but PRK is just a lil less risky because there is no flap.

I got mine done at the Bochner Eye Institute in Toronto.

Either way, good luck and enjoy the freedom of no glasses/contacts. Even 6 months out now, I catch myself trying to take my glasses off before going into the shower. Feels good looking like an idiot in that situation

Disclaimer: I have a family member who work at Bochner, so I didn't really shop around.

You just said you did both PRK and Lasik.
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i dropped 4200 USD for wave-front guided lasik (full laser, no keratometer) and i was good to go to lecture/lab at school the very next morning (about a 16 hour recovery period). it has been 3 months since then and i have to say it's totally worth the money. Do not get PRK or standard lasik. I had -7.75 in one eye and -6.5 in the other. I also had a slight astigmatism in both eyes, which are now corrected. I currently have -0.25 in both eyes. The smallest possible prescription you can have above perfect vision. I don't have any of the night-time side effects which are common with PRK and standard lasik. If I were you, I'd just save up the dough to drop on wave-front full laser lasik instead of prk or standard lasik
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