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I've been thinking about getting my licence lately (summer job got me the 600 i need). The suzuki GS500 seems to be what i'll probably get (after licence + gear) butI also realy like the looks of old BMWs like the R60/7 and given that it has less hp than the gs500 i wondered if it would make a good beginner bike?
Old 09-28-2005, 01:48 PM Fgg is offline  
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your 97 is nowhere near the level of the new 600s. 77hp vs 110hp of the new 600s (new R6 has even more than that).

Where all the 1997 (and pre-1997) 600ccm bikes in USA limited/crippled in some way?

Because almost every 600ccm sportbike we could buy here in Denmark in 1997 had more that 100hp?

Honda cbr 600 f3: 105hp
Suzuki GSX-R 600: 106hp
Susuki RF600R: 100hp
Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R: 105hp
Yamaha FZR600: 91hp (this model was the one from the 1980's, still being sold)
Yamaha YZF 600 R: 100hp (probably not 100% correct, my info list's its 0-60mph time as 5 seconds, i know for sure that it's lower)


or.. wait.. are we talking about hp on the wheel and not the engine? And if so, why use these numbers instead of the numbers that the factories give?
Old 10-01-2005, 03:15 PM AndersH is offline  
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That is comforting to hear. I know the sportbikes.net folks are trying to help us newbies, but they really make it sound like getting on a 600 is signing your death warrant (I haven't talked on the boards, but I've been reading all of their FAQs).

I'm trying my best to do this responsibly. I've bought the gear, signed up for the MSF, and I've ordered a DVD that is supposedly helpful to new riders (A Twist of the Wrist).

You're not signing your own death warrent. As long as you know what you're dealing with there should be no problems. The bike doesn't go faster than what you decide. You can always see how fast you're going by looking at the speedo - if it's too fast you just have to let go of the gas, then the speed will decrease.

A good advice to beginnes is: keep the speed limits. There's a reason why they are there, and don't try to challenge faith by breaking them :-)
Old 10-01-2005, 03:31 PM AndersH is offline  
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I've been thinking about getting my licence lately (summer job got me the 600 i need). The suzuki GS500 seems to be what i'll probably get (after licence + gear) butI also realy like the looks of old BMWs like the R60/7 and given that it has less hp than the gs500 i wondered if it would make a good beginner bike?

I would choose the GS500e. I couldn't find any info on the BMW R60, but I found some numbers on the R65 - and it's a heavy bike. 200kg. I guess the R60 is also something like that...
The GS weighs in at around 169kg (dry) and IMHO that has a lot to say when you're a newbie or just a small person..

Another reason why to get the GS is, that there's been sold many of them. (at least where I live). It's easy to get parts and they will probably be cheap.
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I'm 5' 8", 130~ pounds. What type of bike would you guys recommend? This would be my first bike, and I will be taking the proper instructional courses for bike riding. I need something that I can learn on, and then move on to bigger and better when the time is right.. suggestions?

*note: circuit bikes appeal to me, cruisers don't!! *
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I think you'd do good on a 250, given your weight. It might feel a little short for you though.

In other news;

I PICK UP MY BIKE AND START THE MSF TOMORROW!!! HOORAH.
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how much is motorcycle insurance for you guys? i know it's not going to be definite, but i'm just looking at a ballpark range.

right now i'm paying $250/month for an 04 accord 4cyl... i got into a huge accident a month before they were going to give me a good driving discount

since i don't have a gf anymore, and i rarely drive others, and that i'm going to be interning at a location +15 miles away, i think a bike would be better for me financially and more convenient. i'm looking at a kawasaki 250R, these bikes are pretty cheap too

i don't know anyone that rides a bike, well i know one person, but i haven't talked to him in a year. so lets say that i don't have anyone to go to to discuss riding, where would i start? should i just look on craigslist and ask if someone wants to teach me? i also read about motorcycle classes that i can take, are these mandatory? how do i get a license at the DMV to ride a bike, do i just bring a bike with me, show them i can balance and turn and i'm donE?


i'm pretty sure most of my questions have been answered within the last 12 or so pages, but if they're not, i'd appreciate a response i'm going to start reading the replies in this thread to catch up when i have time
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I'm paying $800/yr for liability and comprehensive on an 1100cc, $9k bike with a bad record.

How old are you? If you are under 21, you MUST take an MSF course, but even if you are over 21, the MSF course makes getting your license easier. You can go down there right now and get your permit by passing the written test. (do it ASAP) Then take the MSF course and boom, you have your M1.

Otherwise, you bring your bike to the DMV and have to pass a riding test. Go out of the lines or put your foot down and you fail. At least with the MSF course they help you out.

I went from no experience at all to having almost 2,000 miles on a 640lb, 1100cc beast in a few months, It isn't hard.
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250's are dirt cheap to insure. Even with a crazy record. Dont worry about it


Though if somehow your ins. still decides to rape you on it, you might want to see about switching to state farm ins.
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I've been scouting the Honda 599's (Hornet for you UK folks). Is it in the same line in terms of beginner bikes as the Suzuki SV650?
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250's are dirt cheap to insure. Even with a crazy record. Dont worry about it


Though if somehow your ins. still decides to rape you on it, you might want to see about switching to state farm ins.

My Honda Rebel was $207 for a year, and that's on a non-discount (i.e. geico, progressive, etc, junk) insurance with all the options ($50 deductible, high amounts on everything)

No idea how much a higher powered bike would be, i've been looking at the sv650 but i'm wondering if the power will be enough. The 250 is seriously lacking as it is
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Im currently on a 50cc bike (16 UK Laws) and am thinking about going to a 125 when i'm 17, anyone got any recommendations? I was thinking about:
1. Honda NSR 125
2. Aprilla RS
3. Honda CBR (Seems to have a very skinny back wheel)
4. Derbi GPR 125
5. Yamaha DT or any other scrambler styled bike

Anyone owned these? If so what were they like
...A 50cc bike?

I think my leg is bigger than 50cc
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Im currently on a 50cc bike (16 UK Laws) and am thinking about going to a 125 when i'm 17, anyone got any recommendations? I was thinking about:
1. Honda NSR 125
2. Aprilla RS
3. Honda CBR (Seems to have a very skinny back wheel)
4. Derbi GPR 125
5. Yamaha DT or any other scrambler styled bike

Anyone owned these? If so what were they like

What do you want from your bike? You're looking at quite a few different types there. If you like speed & acceleration you'll probably want a 2-stroke one, as I can honestly say 125cc 4-strokes aren't very fast. On the flipside, the 2-strokes are thirstier and need more maintenance than a 4-stroke.

Are 125ccs in UK restricted to 15hp like they are in Finland? If they are and you plan to keep it that way, the CBR will actually be faster and quicker than the 2-strokes though, due to it's lightness and the fact that it was made to push 15-ish hp, while the normally ~30hp 2-strokes were restricted to it. Of course you can get a 2-stroke and destrict it, and still be relatively safe from the cops...

I just sold my Aprilia RS, overall it was a fun bike, plenty of power, good suspension and looks good. Coming from an Aprilia RX50 my arms tired a lot in the beginning but I got used to it in a couple of days. I never had a chance to take it to the track but from what I hear if fares quite decently there too. It did require a lot of maintenance though, Italian + 2-stroke is not a very durable combination.

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Well winter is almost here and the bike I was riding this August, September, October (though not much thanks to two weeks of rain) will be off the road next monday until spring. The bike was great a Vulcan 800 Classic. My dad is keeping his Concurs on the road all year but I do not like riding it that much. I started saving up for a bike but the top on my O|||||O stopped accepting a rear window and the new top cost $450. Damn my luck, well as long as I get a bike by April. Fracking Massachusetts weather.
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So Im thinking of taking my permit and classes in Januray/Feb, I was told its better to take your classes in colder months since you end up sitting on the bike for a while and you get hot.
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