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I hear they're doing the same thing in Oregon. From the terms you used I bet you saw it on O'Reilly like I did.
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:33 PM ViriiK is offline  
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Argg, these idiots! Can anyone get a link of how they voted? I'm poised to tear my rep. a new asshole. I just know he voted it down, I live in a very conservative area.



Tear him a third asshole for me, please.
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I agree with you on the legalizing, but I think it should be allowed to be a free market product, especially hemp (for its 80,000 different applications).


I meant a government controled industry for the weed for smoking, to make sure its all safe and clean and of the highest quality.

edit: Now that I think about it, it should just be very regulated by the government, but still allow anyone to grow/produce/market their own weed. Have it regulated like beef, with only the highest quality can be sold. It would allow competiton among growers/breeders to perfect the perfect strain of weed.

Hemp should be treated just like corn, or wood...or any other crop.

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I propose that instead of legalizing medical marijuana we should attempt to make every drug that is currently in use that is in any way related to any illicit drug illegal.

Maybe then people will learn that just because it's not a good idea to shoot heroin that doesn't mean that it is a good idea to ban morphine from being used medically.
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I propose that instead of legalizing medical marijuana we should attempt to make every drug that is currently in use that is in any way related to any illicit drug illegal.

Maybe then people will learn that just because it's not a good idea to shoot heroin that doesn't mean that it is a good idea to ban morphine from being used medically.


I dont see how that would help in anyway.

Plus it would cost a LOT of money, just look at how many billions of dollars are being pumped into the "war on drugs" And thats just for the drugs are are illicit now, Imagine how hard it would be to keep control if EVERY drug was illegal.
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It was only suggested to prove a point. There are many good medecines that are related to illicit drugs but because it is politically mandated that marijuana/hemp doesn't have any redeeming qualities whatsoever research into that area has been stifled. The US government is hypocritical in claiming that marijuana has no medicinal value as they have not only undertaken tests into its efficacy which were positive but it continues, to this day, to supply medical marijuana to a handfull of people who were awarded access to medical marijuana as a result of those early tests. The tests however were cancelled, presumably because it would be politically incorrect to be both advocating marijuana as medecine and simultaneously locking people in jail for possesing marijuana, even if it was for medical purposes. At least on any large scale. So the few people who get medical marijuana from the feds will get it until they die and then I guess they will just pretend like it never happened.
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I support full legalization of Marijuana.

It should be used for industrial, medical, and recreational purposes.
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And it failed miserably.
My state is mostly full of rednecks and hippies. Hippies get it onto the ballots and rednecks vote it down.

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I'm just curious how many people would be in favor or decriminilizing marijuana if it were treated like alcohol?
er go, you need to be a certain age to use it
you need to have a license to sell it
feds and states both tax it
there are laws to prevent public intoxication
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I'm just curious how many people would be in favor or decriminilizing marijuana if it were treated like alcohol?
er go, you need to be a certain age to use it
you need to have a license to sell it
feds and states both tax it
there are laws to prevent public intoxication
legal limit to the amount llowable in the bloodstream for certain activities

That's what I've been advocating for years. Treat it like alcohol. Commercial producers must meet purity requirements similar to any fresh fruit or vegetables and the product must be tested for THC content like is done with alcohol and then it should be properly labeled like it done with pretty much all consumable items. Small scale personal production should be allowed, ie you should be able to grow a few plants of your own for your own use. It should be age restricted to 18+.

Smoking and driving should be totally illegal on a impairment basis, not on a per-se basis. Smoking in public places for non-medical reasons should be decided on a state by state basis like is done now with alcohol. Smoking establishments should be licensed like bars.

The only change I would make to the way we do it now would be to make sure that all drugs, recreational or prescription, should only be advertized in adult only media whether that is age restricted magazines, TV, or movies.

I think we still have a lot of hype and hysteria to get beyond before that will ever be able to come to be however. Marijuana may not be the healthiest thing you can do to yourself but at the same time no one should ever have to go to jail for merely possessing it. Responsible users should not be punished.
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Certain people must still be able to make more money with it being illegal. I guess when it is more profitable to be legal we will see some changes.

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That's what I've been advocating for years. Treat it like alcohol. Commercial producers must meet purity requirements similar to any fresh fruit or vegetables and the product must be tested for THC content like is done with alcohol and then it should be properly labeled like it done with pretty much all consumable items. Small scale personal production should be allowed, ie you should be able to grow a few plants of your own for your own use. It should be age restricted to 18+.

Smoking and driving should be totally illegal on a impairment basis, not on a per-se basis. Smoking in public places for non-medical reasons should be decided on a state by state basis like is done now with alcohol. Smoking establishments should be licensed like bars.

The only change I would make to the way we do it now would be to make sure that all drugs, recreational or prescription, should only be advertized in adult only media whether that is age restricted magazines, TV, or movies.

I think we still have a lot of hype and hysteria to get beyond before that will ever be able to come to be however. Marijuana may not be the healthiest thing you can do to yourself but at the same time no one should ever have to go to jail for merely possessing it. Responsible users should not be punished.


Agreement so far.

But, most sales would still be illegal. Your streetcorner drug dealer could still be arrested for possesion with intent to sell just like a person can be charged for possesion with intent to sell alcohol unlisenced.
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