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.....the only voting bloc that DOESNT VOTE!!!!

Yeah its funny how that works, eh? In 2006 we were having state elections, and I convinced all my friends to vote for Kinky Friedman for governor.... I think maybe 3 of the fucking lazy bastards actually got out and voted that day... most of them forgot it was even happening.

I do think however that if we could drastically increase youth voter turnout we might actually have some luck getting a lesser known/supported candidate such as Ron Paul in office, but getting teenage kids to get off their asses and vote is like letting IcW@ter babysit your five year old daughter. It just doesn't happen.
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And in 2012 there will be another election, thus another chance at winning office.



I doubt it. I was just talking about the next election being in 2012.

But if you guys want to go all JoePits on the subject then we can.

According to what I have been taught in Christianity the end of the world will come when we are led by a foreigner, someone of middle eastern decent. Someone not of US origin.... Hence Barack Obama, a "wolf" in sheeps clothing, as they say. This "antichrist" will fool us into siding with him thinking he will keep peace, and wants the best for the people of earth, and then once he has earned our trust and a place in office he will destroy everything we stand for, and bring war and famine. We will also have gone to war with 3 nations from specific regions of the middle east, and we have already gone to war with Afghanistan and Iraq, and Obama has said on national television earlier on in his candidacy that he wants to go to war with Iran, which I found appalling.

I am not saying I believe in that at all I am just saying this is what I've been taught and told to believe.

The Mayans predict that for the end of their cycles on the calendar that ends in 2012, we can essentially either have this great change of consciousness through war or peace, whichever we as mankind want, but it will happen either way.

Dozens of psychics and what not have predicted the world will end between 2010 and 2020.... and several other religions have events that coincide with current times.

And even John Titor has told us of the hard times to come....

But yeah I don't know what I believe in for a fact but I find all of this stuff interesting... we'll see how things work out in 2012 but I am calm, and I believe that as long as we are willing to accept what is to come with open arms and open minds there will be no war, no famine and no great injustice.

Actually, what I've heard is that the anti-Christ will be someone who is, yes, a world renowned public leader but is also a truly good person that suffers a life-threatening head injury. On his deathbed Satan/Lucifer/The Devil takes control of his body. The anti-Christ is saved. The masses believe him to be the same loving soul, when, in fact, he is just the opposite. Commence the burning of many a soul........... just something I've heard.
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Tell you what, convince me that Ron Paul's educational policies are good for this country and I'll vote for him. Best of luck.
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Yeah its funny how that works, eh? In 2006 we were having state elections, and I convinced all my friends to vote for Kinky Friedman for governor.... I think maybe 3 of the fucking lazy bastards actually got out and voted that day... most of them forgot it was even happening.

I do think however that if we could drastically increase youth voter turnout we might actually have some luck getting a lesser known/supported candidate such as Ron Paul in office, but getting teenage kids to get off their asses and vote is like letting IcW@ter babysit your five year old daughter. It just doesn't happen.


Yep, by and large 18-24 demographic just doesn't really give a shit. Made me furious during the 2004 Kerry/Bush election, as that demographic had the biggest potential impact and had shit for turnout.
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That book must be a bestseller.
Tell you what, convince me that Ron Paul's educational policies are good for this country and I'll vote for him. Best of luck.

the educational policy of virginia should not be dictated by new york, or vice versa. what works in one state doesn't necessarily work in others.

his educational policy is to stay the fuck out of it because the federal government has no business in it in the first place. when states have control of their education system the people of that state are able to make better decisions and have more control. parents, not administrators, should be making the decisions on how their children are taught.
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because a gynaecologist knows more about education than a phd candidate within the field, silly

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the educational policy of virginia should not be dictated by new york, or vice versa. what works in one state doesn't necessarily work in others.

his educational policy is to stay the fuck out of it because the federal government has no business in it in the first place. when states have control of their education system the people of that state are able to make better decisions and have more control. parents, not administrators, should be making the decisions on how their children are taught.

A good quote some of you should think about before so heavily relying on total local control of educational policy:

"Local financing raises important qualifications to the redistributive power of public spending on education. Because communities diffeer in their tax bases and their willingness to impose taxes, there is substantial variation across places in spending differences. The property tax base is highly unequal across communities, [and] disparities across juridictions remain. Wealthy communities spend more on schools than poorer communities, so the existing system of locally-provided education is not as redistributive as it would be if a higher level of government were the primary service provider"

I have lots more for those interested. Other curious facts:
In 1929-30, the local share of educational finance was 82.7%
In 1947-48, local governments provided 57.9% of the money
In 1990-91, local revenue sources accounted for 46.5% of public spending on primary and secondary education; 47.3% came from state governments, and 6.2% from the federal government.

Compare this on a policy basis with the increase in effectiveness and depth of our educational curriculum and system, and you see a positive relationship between increased control and educational clarity.
If all educational decisions are left to the states, policy dissemination will reach local government control. The result is unregulated local financing of education, different in each state as each state will choose regulatory protocols differently. The end result? Vastly inefficient educational systems with no control, creating harmful achievement discrepancies beyond we have ever experienced...and no way to fix it.

"The combination of local government provision of education and reliance on local property tax finance makes it more difficult for low-income families to purchase high-quality education"


The difference in all of this is Ron Paul supporters (see, I didn't even call you guys fanatics) use rhetoric and ideological buzzwords. I use actual facts, issues of educational policy that truly face our system. Most of you people follow Paul because you think what he says is a good idea, and you don't *really* understand the educational system.
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A good quote some of you should think about before so heavily relying on total local control of educational policy:

"Local financing raises important qualifications to the redistributive power of public spending on education. Because communities diffeer in their tax bases and their willingness to impose taxes, there is substantial variation across places in spending differences. The property tax base is highly unequal across communities, [and] disparities across juridictions remain. Wealthy communities spend more on schools than poorer communities, so the existing system of locally-provided education is not as redistributive as it would be if a higher level of government were the primary service provider"

I have lots more for those interested. Other curious facts:
In 1929-30, the local share of educational finance was 82.7%
In 1947-48, local governments provided 57.9% of the money
In 1990-91, local revenue sources accounted for 46.5% of public spending on primary and secondary education; 47.3% came from state governments, and 6.2% from the federal government.

Compare this on a policy basis with the increase in effectiveness and depth of our educational curriculum and system, and you see a positive relationship between increased control and educational clarity.
If all educational decisions are left to the states, policy dissemination will reach local government control. The result is unregulated local financing of education, different in each state as each state will choose regulatory protocols differently. The end result? Vastly inefficient educational systems with no control, creating harmful achievement discrepancies beyond we have ever experienced...and no way to fix it.

"The combination of local government provision of education and reliance on local property tax finance makes it more difficult for low-income families to purchase high-quality education"


The difference in all of this is Ron Paul supporters (see, I didn't even call you guys fanatics) use rhetoric and ideological buzzwords. I use actual facts, issues of educational policy that truly face our system. Most of you people follow Paul because you think what he says is a good idea, and you don't *really* understand the educational system.
No, I follow him because I believe principle is more important.
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