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In his defense I reacted pretty negatively when he insinuated people who spend money on "luxury" goods (cigs, cable, etc) aren't really poor. I don't believe that a poor person's life should be devoid of leisure, and a TV is hardly a luxurious item in 21st century America. Like a car, it's not a necessity; however, it (and other leisure activities) is crucial to mental health and, subsequently, productivity.

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It's really beside the point anyway. No one is ever going to move from "Poor" to "Not Poor" by saving $60 a month not having cable or not smoking. Poor bashing is just a smokescreen.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is where both of you tools would be wrong. Anyone who isn't a retard with their money here will support me here. Guaranteed both of you are retarded to boot with money. Yes - TV IS A LUXURY. When I say TV I don't mean having some old hand-me-down non-flat TV and getting basic air channels for free - I mean getting full blown Comcast/DirectTV and a DVR with HBO shit is a luxury. I make plenty and I still baffle at getting cable.

Saving $60 a month can DAMN sure be the difference needed. Instead people are living month to month and then emergencies comes up. Surprise surprise
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is where both of you tools would be wrong. Anyone who isn't a retard with their money here will support me here. Guaranteed both of you are retarded to boot with money. Yes - TV IS A LUXURY. When I say TV I don't mean having some old hand-me-down non-flat TV and getting basic air channels for free - I mean getting full blown Comcast/DirectTV and a DVR with HBO shit is a luxury. I make plenty and I still baffle at getting cable.

Saving $60 a month can DAMN sure be the difference needed. Instead people are living month to month and then emergencies comes up. Surprise surprise

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is where both of you tools would be wrong. Anyone who isn't a retard with their money here will support me here.
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Saving $60 a month can DAMN sure be the difference needed. Instead people are living month to month and then emergencies comes up. Surprise surprise
Let's try a little basic math here. $60/month works out to $720 a year. That's a decent amount of money for a poor person. Certainly could help in emergencies etc.

Is it the difference between being poor and being middle class? Fuck no, not by orders of magnitude. You need a decent job to be middle class. You cannot save your way to being middle class with a shit job. And that's the problem in this country right now, we have a shortage of decent jobs.


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You are wrong on that one. Never had to live with my parents to save money either!
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Also, way to focus on the stupid micro issues again instead of the actual substance. Poor people budgeting better isn't going to solve a damn thing in this country.

We have a huge number of formerly middle class people who are either out of work entirely or working shitty jobs. Is the problem "they spend too much on minor consumer luxuries", or is it "They used to have a decent job, and now those jobs don't exist"? Seems like the latter to me. The middle class in general has been completely stalled for almost two decades, while everything keeps getting more expensive. We produce more than ever before, our companies make more than they ever have, the richest people are doing better than ever before, and yet the people actually doing all the work aren't seeing any gains from it.



Romney said awhile ago "I'm not concerned about the very poor." I think that was a reasonable thing to say, and really we shouldn't be talking about that right now. What we need to be talking about is the middle class and people who were formerly middle class, and what it takes to maintain a middle class lifestyle.
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What can you do though. I liked these latest ones more than last season so that's a plus.
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is where both of you tools would be wrong. Anyone who isn't a retard with their money here will support me here. Guaranteed both of you are retarded to boot with money. Yes - TV IS A LUXURY. When I say TV I don't mean having some old hand-me-down non-flat TV and getting basic air channels for free - I mean getting full blown Comcast/DirectTV and a DVR with HBO shit is a luxury. I make plenty and I still baffle at getting cable.

Saving $60 a month can DAMN sure be the difference needed. Instead people are living month to month and then emergencies comes up. Surprise surprise

You don't make "plenty" if you "baffle at getting cable" and $60 makes some sort of a difference to you. The rest of your posts are equally devoid of any sense.
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TV is bad ass. And of course I mean HDTV - full digital cable in 1080. Can't imagine living without it. And the DVR too. Way too much good shit on TV.

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Oh I'm not saying its bad. Its actually really good. People wouldn't watch it as much as they do if it sucked.

What is the average time an American spends on tv a week? Like 30 hours?


I used to watch a lot. Just don't now.
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lol, lives at home/moved away from mommy and daddy recently and tells other people what they're entitled to and about all the sacrifices he's making to be a WASP


you entitled racist fuck, just kill yourself already
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lol, lives at home/moved away from mommy and daddy recently and tells other people what they're entitled to and about all the sacrifices he's making to be a WASP


you entitled racist fuck, just kill yourself already

Naw dude, naw. Go enjoy your life of mediocrity. I'll enjoy mine for doing something smart... like... ohhhh I don't know - saving up a little after I get right out of college? Yeaaaaa I know doing smart things isn't popular with you s but believe me, it actually helps out a bunch in the end Enjoy taking my order.
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you're a caricature of a human being, and you're so fucking stupid it's not even amusing anymore


PS. Sorry, I graduated from college and pretty much got employed to the field I was studying without even graduating, infact I got to pretty much choose where to work. What about you? Did you graduate already or is mommy still helping you do homework, you entitled little snotfaced fuck?
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Naw dude, naw. Go enjoy your life of mediocrity. I'll enjoy mine for doing something smart... like... ohhhh I don't know - saving up a little after I get right out of college? Yeaaaaa I know doing smart things isn't popular with you s but believe me, it actually helps out a bunch in the end Enjoy taking my order.

No shit it helps out you dumbass, that's the whole fucking point. You have zero empathy or understanding for people who didn't have those opportunities, and instead condescend to them and act like they should be happy being wage slaves the rest of their lives. Takes a particular kind of asshole to turn getting money from your parents in your mid-20s into a moral virtue.


I had the same kind of privileged life but I'm not trying to pretend like it makes me better than people who weren't so lucky. Congrats, you didn't fuck up the advantages your parents gave you. Good jerb there.
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No shit it helps out you dumbass, that's the whole fucking point. You have zero empathy or understanding for people who didn't have those opportunities, and instead condescend to them and act like they should be happy being wage slaves the rest of their lives. Takes a particular kind of asshole to turn getting money from your parents in your mid-20s into a moral virtue.


I had the same kind of privileged life but I'm not trying to pretend like it makes me better than people who weren't so lucky. Congrats, you didn't fuck up the advantages your parents gave you. Good jerb there.

Yes, I got lucky that my parents were still alive after I got done with college Soooo rare.

Either way, I could afford to live on my own, anywhere from $500-1000 for a 1rm apartment. But you know what? I decided not not be a dumbass and just save for a while. I never said it makes me better - I'm telling toolbags here to stop bitching and just accept what you have
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Yes, I got lucky that my parents were still alive after I got done with college Soooo rare.

Uh, and were willing and able to let you live for fucking free and pay all your bills on top of that. That's not exactly ubiquitous.

Holy shit, and you complain about other people being "entitled." Goddam son. Nothing wrong with having those advantages, but some perspective is required.
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So....poor people should just be happy about it, budget better, and be wage slaves the rest of their lives? Seriously wtf is your message here? Other that just attacking poors for being poor, what point do you have?


And I'm not poor in the slightest, top 15% of household incomes right now with pretty good growth potential. No debt either
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Uh, and were willing and able to let you live for fucking free and pay all your bills on top of that. That's not exactly ubiquitous.

Holy shit, and you complain about other people being "entitled." Goddam son. Nothing wrong with having those advantages, but some perspective is required.

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So....poor people should just be happy about it, budget better, and be wage slaves the rest of their lives? Seriously wtf is your message here? Other that just attacking poors for being poor, what point do you have?


And I'm not poor in the slightest, top 15% of household incomes right now with pretty good growth potential. No debt either

No, poor people shouldn't be happy! They should take part of everyone else's hard work! They don't deserve what life dealt to them! I say we have an added 5% tax just for poor people because ITS NOT FAIR! ITS MY TURN TO RIDE THE BICYCLE!! More and more stupidity spewing out of your mouth like vomit.
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No, poor people shouldn't be happy! They should take part of everyone else's hard work! They don't deserve what life dealt to them! I say we have an added 5% tax just for poor people because ITS NOT FAIR! ITS MY TURN TO RIDE THE BICYCLE!! More and more stupidity spewing out of your mouth like vomit.

They should have just chosen to be born into wealthier families if they didn't want to be poor.

How about we just raise the minimum wage to $10 and go back to the Clinton tax rates? Or is that just too crazy for you?

Also, I'm curious. Are you as pissed off about Romney getting a $77k tax credit for his dancing horse as you are about poor people getting a couple hundred dollars a month in food stamps?
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