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I'm a net admin with a Snow Leopard Server OD Master for 15 clients within my office, along with another 20 windows clients running from a MS Server 2008 AD domain.

I've come across FAR more issues on the server-side of OS X than I ever have with Windows. There are countless numbers of bugs I've had to track down via their horrendous forums only to find out that the bug has been in Server for generations and doesn't look like it'll ever get fixed, so I have to find some workaround that really shouldn't ever have needed to be invented.

My users of OS X really like the environment, but they have far more issues with compatibility and stability versus my windows based users. When a Mac hits a wall, it hits it really, really hard and can't recover. Windows' process handling has greatly improved and is far more functional than OS X's.

Oh, and have you ever heard of cygwin? Funny, I just compiled my own shiz the other day, too.

But thats just from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

"Typical windows user, fucking idiot. Omg you dont know shit about OSX."

Just filling in for DC.

edit: Sorry forgot the ""
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well done tommy, you managed to convey dc's arrogance pretty well.

my guess: dc was a nerdy pc user, but then got hip with mac and now feels like he is hot shit
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*NIX IS SO HARD GUYS I NEEDS MY WINDERS

+1 to the clueless windows users in this thread

One other thing, friend.

You really think the average os x user even understands where terminal is and not to mention actually knows what to do with it?
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I'd probably buy a Mac if:

1) There was any modularity to it. I hate dropping down cash on technology where I can't perform my own maintenance and upgrading.

2) It wasn't significantly more expensive to an equivalent alternative. I can't justify spending extra money for an Apple machine when I can build one myself for a much smaller price tag, or buy a ready-made system from a competitor for less.

3) Apple Computer Inc. wasn't constantly looking over my shoulder telling me how I can and cannot use a device I purchased. I like to tinker with my devices, I shouldn't have to jailbreak them to do so. I shouldn't have to be dependent on paying anyone's support agents for basic tasks I can do myself, such as replacing consumables. I also don't need or want a corporation filtering out what software and applications I can use for the device. Apple doesn't decide what makes a good "user experience", I do.

4) If I didn't have to get accessories to get away from having to use a touchscreen. I like having a touchscreen as an option, but I don't want to use it for all my inputs, and I don't want to have to buy accessories to not be forced to use it.

I'll finish this off with a pre-made response for DC:

"Retard Windows user has Apple envy, what a ."

(As we all know anyone who doesn't own Apple stuff has Apple envy, despite the fact they can purchase Apple products but just don't want to)
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Ugh, I used to edit with Final Cut on a Mac. Nice piece of software but it would crash and freeze more than any other program I've ever used. The major downside to using OSX was it was much more difficult to force quit.

That said, I have programs freeze on me in both Windows and Macs...I haven't found one to be more stable than the other. You start working with huge files, you're gonna have problems. Right now I'm all PC because I don't really care about the atheistic of my computer, I care about the atheistic of my work.

STFU FAG IT JUST WORKS !

In all seriousness though, I think the stability gap has closed. Apple definitely had a native advantage before, but I think after XP came out and subsequent Windows releases, the gap really began to close.
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my guess is the advantage was lost when they abandoned the motorola cpu's. which had significantly less erata than intel architecture
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Someone with Apple envy is much like a closeted gay.

You will see many closted gays bash open gays like crazy until they admit reality. They seem to think that if they spend lots of time and energy shouting to the world about how they hate gays it will make them not gay.

Take Roy Ashburn for instance: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_490297.html

Someone who goes out of their way to defend Apple with no statistics, facts, or otherwise useful information are much like an openly gay person.

Apple makes old technology inside of shiny looking object with an idiot-proof OS. There is nothing advantagous about Apple products except for maybe some superior Photo / Video editing on Mac OSX. Even I have the balls to admit something good about Apple - but the problem is that is all it has. There is not a single other advantage. The iPad is a tablet PC - a dead technology that is further dieing every day. The problem people have with Apple isn't there products; it's faggots like you. Fin
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Someone who goes out of their way to defend Apple with no statistics, facts, or otherwise useful information are much like an openly gay person.

Apple makes old technology inside of shiny looking object with an idiot-proof OS. There is nothing advantagous about Apple products except for maybe some superior Photo / Video editing on Mac OSX. Even I have the balls to admit something good about Apple - but the problem is that is all it has. There is not a single other advantage. The iPad is a tablet PC - a dead technology that is further dieing every day. The problem people have with Apple isn't there products; it's faggots like you. Fin

You forgot about hackintosh.. so the superiority of owning a mac is once again null

Don't even get me started on the ipad $700 for 64 GB
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You forgot about hackintosh.. so the superiority of owning a mac is once again null

Don't even get me started on the ipad $700 for 64 GB

Gotta love how Apple didn't include a USB port in the iPad eh? Gee, I bet that has nothing to do with them wanting to force users to pay for a memory upgrade? Maybe Steve Jobs thinks USB ports are "the way of the past" like he said about Flash, and Apple's just "ahead of the curve" by not uncluding them. Yeah, that's probably it, Stevie-poo wouldn't do anything to shorthand his users in the name of making extra money.
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Gotta love how Apple didn't include a USB port in the iPad eh? Gee, I bet that has nothing to do with them wanting to force users to pay for a memory upgrade? Maybe Steve Jobs thinks USB ports are "the way of the past" like he said about Flash, and Apple's just "ahead of the curve" by not uncluding them. Yeah, that's probably it, Stevie-poo wouldn't do anything to shorthand his users in the name of making extra money.

As much as I hate apple I gotta hand it to my man steve. I really admire the guy. He knows exactly how to get these suckers to buy shit they don't need.
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As much as I hate apple I gotta hand it to my man steve. I really admire the guy. He knows exactly how to get these suckers to buy shit they don't need.

Like I said earlier, Apple has by far the best marketting team in the industry. No contest.
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Hey DC, I found a job opportunity for you:

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i just got an imac and gave my mom my pc. so far its whatevers, dont see many pros or cons really. its just different.
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adding some fuel to the fire.

I use a mac and a windows machine. I like my mac machine way more than my windows machine, i just wish the mac was cheaper and had some of the features (hardware wise) of my windows machine.


Why do i love my mac?

The case of my mbp is amazing. Its going on 5 years now, and not a blemish on the aluminum. My Vaio has a shit ton of blemishes on it, and its a month old.

OSX is awesome. Sorry, I was hoping windows 7 could close to gap between the OS's but man, OSX still blows windows out of the water for usability. What do i mean by usability? I'm not going to give you that macfag BS answer of "It just works". Ill break it down for ya.
1) Setting up any form of settings on the mac is just simpler and more intuititve. The new Control Panel of windows 7 is a bad attempt at what the mac does right.
2) High level functions are easy to get to, The windows DOS prompt/console have really been dimenished in value. I still have terminal on my mac, and can use that whenever i need to use a unix/linux shell
3) Its pretty, but damnit its not distractingly pretty, the new Aero interface doesn't seem to add any function with its visuals, I like the look, but after a while the appeal is lost and i see no reason why my windows should be "glass like"
4) Installing programs and more importantly seeing what programs are running is easy/intuitive/easily managed. I hate the fact that i install a program on windows, and it tries to install 3 other programs with it (an example of the worst case). Then i have the system tray, i close a program, and fuck its still open, or even worse the program wants to have a permenant presence on my desktop by always having a system tray icon run in the background. Fuck that, Then there is the whole registry of windows, what a horrrible horrible thing. .app and the library folder and just the whole FILE SYSTEM of the mac is 10 times better than windows.
As a side note, did you know you can access any .app (the equivilant of .exe) using terminal and extract objects from within the program without any debuggers or other software, pretty cool if you want to extract a gift and manipulate it in photoshop etc etc
5) The OS doesn't treat me like a criminal (no genuine checks), or constantly harass me for updates (the update feature is rock solid), or easily gives access to administrative functions to programs. Windows 7 has made great strides in this aspect, but fuck me is it half as good as Mac/Unix.


I can add a few more about OSX but, this is getting long...

Other things that have made my mac invaluable.

FINAL CUT PRO (amazing video editing software)

Pro Tools (available on windows, but the mac version is more rock solid)

Uni-code/language options. This might be something that is specific to someone who deals in more than one language on a daily basis, but switching the entire OS and or single programs into a different language is easy as all hell on a mac. With windows i have had nothing but one large ass pain when it comes to this. Shit, some programs (admittedly this is shitty programming) will not run on my windows 7 machine unless the Unicode is switched to the native language (japanese) of the program. Every time i run into this problem, i have to restart the machine, which allows this one program to run in Japanese, but meanwhile fucks up a few other programs that were written in English and Japanese.

In OSX, all i have to do is change the language setting in the OS, and then restart the program. So i can have programs running in ENGLISH and Japanese working together without any problems. Non unicode programs on windows are a bane of my existance (and more common than people would think). If i want to, i can change the language of the entire OS just as easily in OSX, all i have to do is the above switch and restart the computer, on windows i have to either have a Japanese version of Windows 7 or an American English version of windows 7 on my computer to get both languages throughout the entire operating system. There is a big benefit to the fact that there is just ONE VERSION OF OSX, i can buy an upgrade disk from a macbook store in Japan/China/USA/Germany and they all have the same fuckin program on them. Can't say that about windows.
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