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Wow, concerts should not be about politics unless it's a politically driven band.

That's pretty annoying regardless of what they have to say.

Finally a rational response, and one I agree with.
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:08 PM Vagamus is offline  
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Why is it that people get upset when bands decide to make statements?
If you don't like it, don't pay for the fucking guy. Stop telling them to 'shut up and play music.'

As a musician it just totally urks me for some reason.

It must also irk you to be told that your opinion doesn't matter because you're a brain-dead musician. I didn't see you respond to that crap, though.

I think it's annoying when a performer has a message, unless you know they'll have that message ahead of time (like with Moore, though he's not really a "performer"). That said, I wouldn't tell any artist to "shut up and play."

It's annoying. I can deal with a little annoyance until the next burst of entertainment comes along.
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Damn!! Both hands!! Must be a record.

You're so smart. What did you do, switch to double-anal so you could see the screen?
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wow he performed a shitty song to protest the war

Wow. Your taste in music must 100% suck.
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This is idiotic, too. I pay to see the artist play. Who the fuck cares who she wants to dedicate her songs to?
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Something tells me nobody looks towards you for comic relief.

Something tells me you shouldn't be talking about comic relief.
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:15 PM Vagamus is offline  
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[QUOTE=onigami]god it's disgusting what little most of you know about history.

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Hitler in fact did go on to win it.

Lessee here, Hitler won and Bush didn't. That was the original contention. I don't see your point.

So anyway, what are you saying, that Hitler didn't win either, so the comparisons are justified? *smirk*
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As I recall, the SC stopped the recounts rather than allowing them to go past the legal cutoff date (Nov 20?).

...At a time when it was clear they would finish on time. They then waited until the cutoff date was about to pass to say "recounting would hurt Bush."

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There had been several recounts with Bush still winning, Gore and crew kept demanding more recounts, and when 11/20 was looming the SC said that the law required the recounts be completed.
Wrong. The FL supreme court ordered all votes counted - it was well beyond either side demanding more recounts. The FL supreme court had decided, and had arranged, and were in the process of implementing a state-wide recount.

The SCOTUS then halted the count, and deliberated for a few days while the deadline closed. They issued their decision (which ended the count) a few hours before the deadline, if memory serves.

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The SC didn't appoint anyone, they made certain the law was followed.
They made certain the recount was stopped before the true results were known. Apparently the federal law states that a state cannot recount its ballots?
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...At a time when it was clear they would finish on time. They then waited until the cutoff date was about to pass to say "recounting would hurt Bush."



Wrong. The FL supreme court ordered all votes counted - it was well beyond either side demanding more recounts. The FL supreme court had decided, and had arranged, and were in the process of implementing a state-wide recount.

The SCOTUS then halted the count, and deliberated for a few days while the deadline closed. They issued their decision (which ended the count) a few hours before the deadline, if memory serves.



They made certain the recount was stopped before the true results were known. Apparently the federal law states that a state cannot recount its ballots?
Every news organization that has done a recount since the 2000 election have all stated that Bush won Florida's popular vote by a narrow margin. STFU about the 2K presidential election.
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you would think that the "son of the devil" would be pro war.

you have all turned into pussys who overlook the dictatorship, rapes and people getting shot in the street...


but i dont care about that war anymore, so disregard this post.... unless you have allready read it
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Lessee here, Hitler won and Bush didn't. That was the original contention. I don't see your point.

So anyway, what are you saying, that Hitler didn't win either, so the comparisons are justified? *smirk*
hitler didn't win shit. the comparison is wrong.

edit: rather, hitler won the hearts of the people after he became chancellor. that's what wikipedia says.
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hitler didn't win shit. the comparison is wrong.

edit: rather, hitler won the hearts of the people after he became chancellor. that's what wikipedia says.

And became chancellor after making it known that he would kill anyone who seriously opposed him?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So, you're a musician? I doubt you are, since you probably wouldn't say such things about yourself.

It's funny that people say "who is he to talk," as if you have to be a politician to have an opinion about politics or a soldier to have an opinion of war. You obviously don't need to be a musician to have an opinion about musicians.

Hey, I'm a musician, and I like to think I'm more qualified than most people to comment on politics.

I've got no problem with celebrities and entertainers using their status to pitch a political agenda. Politicians, clergy and wealthy executives do it all the time.

What I do have a problem with is entertainers who use their performance as a political venue, and then get angry when people criticize their opinions, boycott them, or walk out of their performances. If you're going to say things that you know some people disagree with, don't be surprised if those who disagree have something of their own to say.
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You're so smart. What did you do, switch to double-anal so you could see the screen?

Me so horny I will love you long time. Much longer than your mother and the doberman does.

hire the handicapped they are fun to watch
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Every news organization that has done a recount since the 2000 election have all stated that Bush won Florida's popular vote by a narrow margin. STFU about the 2K presidential election.
Did they count the thousands of politically targeted illegally disenfranchised voters whose sole crime was to have the wrong name?
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