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It's funny cause in my comparative politics class there's a political spectrum comparing various political parties from around the world, and the democrats are center-right.
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It's funny cause in my comparative politics class there's a political spectrum comparing various political parties from around the world, and the democrats are center-right.

Which makes it even more hilarious when American conservatives say that Obama is a socialist, or that 80 Democrats in congress are card-carrying members of the Communist party. Democrats today would have made fantastic Republicans 30 years ago. And Republicans today are so far to the right they've fallen off the fucking map.
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Ps. Russia still outnumbers the US in everything from tanks to missiles but spends a lot less. Can someone explain this to me? Cheyne's gimmicks can't possibly soak up ALL that money.... Is it all the international military bases? Higher standards of luxury in the barracks?

it's not like they built all those tanks and missiles in the last 5 yrs. And they aren't spending much on maintenance, nor on military salaries. Russia can deal with a small war with someone right on it's border like Georgia, but invade Europe? Probably 80% of their equipment such as tanks wouldn't make it past 50 km before breaking down They could have done it in the 70's/80's, but not today.

US military equipment tends to be more complicated, hence higher needs in maintenance and more skills to perform that maintenance. The US military needs billions a year just to maintain the shit they have, much less acquire new shit. Yes we should reduce our presence in Afghanistan (and we're pretty much out of Iraq), and reduce military expenduire/budget. That will help the overall US budget.
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Shouldn't you be asking what his income tax is, and then telling him he's got no right to his opinion?
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it's not like they built all those tanks and missiles in the last 5 yrs. And they aren't spending much on maintenance, nor on military salaries. Russia can deal with a small war with someone right on it's border like Georgia, but invade Europe? Probably 80% of their equipment such as tanks wouldn't make it past 50 km before breaking down They could have done it in the 70's/80's, but not today.

US military equipment tends to be more complicated, hence higher needs in maintenance and more skills to perform that maintenance. The US military needs billions a year just to maintain the shit they have, much less acquire new shit. Yes we should reduce our presence in Afghanistan (and we're pretty much out of Iraq), and reduce military expenduire/budget. That will help the overall US budget.

Nah they take that pretty seriously. Besides tanks are obsolete for the most part, a foot soldier can take one out. These days you click a country on a map, select "Delete" and hit "yes"

Don't underestimate the Ruskies. US has tried to buy various weapon systems from them on several occasions like the coastal defense rockets. That'll be one of my future threads about the prowess of the motherland.

Basically they never stopped wasting money on military, just like us. They did stop invading countries though. Georgia was a joke - those sand niqqers claimed North Osettia, a Russian Territory and got chased all the way back to their capital. Took nothing but a local military base to properly spank them for bad behavior. American media had a go at it though, trying to make it look like WW3. I guess it's only fair because international news loves to follow whatever US does in the middle east in a similar fashion.
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A lot of liberals and "leftists" in the US are fairly similar to "conservatives', the disagreements are mostly on marginal issues (gay marriage, slight adjustments in tax rates, scale of overseas wars, role of the welfare state). What actually exists as the mainstream politics is some kind of weird hybrid of 70's counter culture, liberalism, and anti governmentism. Conservatism as it existed in the 50's and 60's really doesn't seem to exist anymore outside of very marginal communities, even the tea party would be considered very socially liberal by those standards. To criticize conservatism today is to criticize liberalism to some degree (which it is correct to do). It's important to always be self criticizing and not define yourself in terms of being a "not conservative" which is how you end up with the worthless "leftism" that exists in the US today, a group that is only marginally differentiated from conservatives and self excuses its own crimes by scapegoating conservatism.

Um. I just don't give a crap about anything they see as a "priority"

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It's funny cause in my comparative politics class there's a political spectrum comparing various political parties from around the world, and the democrats are center-right.

Exactly. US is very conservative in general.
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Hey wait.... has the wealth trickled down yet? No? Aw, just checking.


Maybe after we bomb the shit out of Iran?

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They also get socialized health care, housing, and education. Yet a good portion of service members are conservative yokels voting against all of the above.

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Creepy music and sound. It's kind of pointless though, because Tea Party dipshits have a complete lack of cognitive dissonance and do not understand the meaning of hypocrisy. They are literally too stupid to understand how stupid they are.
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Accurate and concise, so many Republican idiosyncrasies
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For the Bible thumpers...thought this was pretty hilarious

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Long but worth it... esp towards the end
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^An American conservative is a classical liberal, at least on economic issues



In case you didn't get it my response to you was a joke.

Why would you use the word liberal when trying to define liberal?
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