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Water Storage v. Large Scale?

I am wondering if anyone here has had experience with large-scale water storage (potable water.) Beyond the large 5 gallon supermarket containers and other smaller methods, is there a good method for storing say 500 gallons of drinkable water safely?

How would one effectively sterilize a container large enough and how would you fill and maintain it in a sterile manner?
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:38 PM adm01 is offline  
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I have a large cistern. It's an old dug well. 30' deep. It's filled by ground water and filtered rain water.

I refilter it with water system and brita.

It lasts 4-6 days including watering all my animals (25+ head horses, cats, dogs and 2 adults)

Then I have a bigger dug well that can last about a month before it runs dry.

I get them filled by a water truck if there is a dry spell. It costs about $230. If the water smells a bit bad I dump some bleach in there.

I drink this water all the time aswell as use for showers, etc...

This probably doesn't apply to you as I live in the country.

But my point is, you don't need to over sterilize your water, container, etc... I use house hold bleach or sometimes a bit of chlorine.

Filling can be done by having someone come in with a truck or just use a hose.
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also, I used to have several large plastic water containers. I had them on wagons and used them for landscaping jobs. But you can get them for around $1200 and they come sterile (within reason)

Be careful buying used because they are also used to ship fertilizer and fuel.

Mine were like this... you could also possibly bury this in your yard. But you should probably build a steel structure to reinforce it. Then bury it 3' deep as not to freeze. This will keep the water cool in summer too.
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getting a rainwater tank is the most obvious solution.

anywhere from


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and some chlorine
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Alright, cool ideas guys. It does seem much more practical to worry about water purity and sanitation at the point of use rather than trying to maintain it in storage.
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a few problems, most of the 'rain barrel' style tanks are not rated for potable(safe for drinking) water, and they can/will leach chemicles in to the water over a a long time(often months, but can be days) thats why bottle watter comes with an drink by date on it, its not because the water goes bad, its because the plastic it is in has leached out enough chemicles over time to be non-potable. Now non-potable water is great for washing your cloths/showering(if not open sores)/flushing toliets and what not, but its not good for cleaning dishes/cooking/brushing teeth and most importantly drinking. Often non-potable water contaners are used to store 'grey water' and trust me thats not a good thing.

IF you are thinking about a end of the world, and i need water, you need to have a good semi-clean source of water(preferably below ground(artiesen would be best)) that you can then filter as needed. Storing water is unrealistic for long term, you need too much, ~2 gallons per person per day. I would keep about a 2 month supply of bottled water on hand, buy it by the case and rotate it, and then if a temporary SHTF even happens, earthquake/major fire(but not your house)/hurrican you will be find, at least on the water front.
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You can drink bleach? brb going to the store

It's only chlorine. Ever drink pool water? Did you die? Just guessing here, but I'm thinking 'no'.

Get straight bleach, and not the stuff with froo-froo perfume, and you'll be fine. (Note: I'm assuming anyone reading this isn't drinking straight bleach, or high concentration dilutions.)

A couple of drops in a canteen will do you quite well for purification purposes. Iodine tablets are another option, if you can get them.

These are expensive, but phenomenal: http://www.amazon.com/Herowater-XPG-.../dp/B000ODO5QS I'd imagine there's another place to find them cheaper.
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pouring 1/3 bottle of bleach into a 35'x5' deep will result in a bleach smell. but it will help really foul water.

I usually do a half bottle in my deep well when it's bad.

But if you just want to freshen it up or be safe a few gulps will be undetected.

Straight bleach will probably result burning your esophagus.
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at any given time we have 20-30 5 gallon jugs of water

going with 1 quart of consumption per day we can make a 5 gallon just last 1 week. We would be ok for just under half a year.
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at any given time we have 20-30 5 gallon jugs of water

going with 1 quart of consumption per day we can make a 5 gallon just last 1 week. We would be ok for just under half a year.

Hmm...don't you need more than 1 quart of water per day?
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at any given time we have 20-30 5 gallon jugs of water

going with 1 quart of consumption per day we can make a 5 gallon just last 1 week. We would be ok for just under half a year.


1 quart of water, is no where near enough fore a person every day. Keep in mind, that you need to count all of the water you use, toilets(ok a hole in the ground gets rid of that), washing your self(teeth encluded), washing what you wear, washing your dishes, cooking with. and you will not have soda machines/coffee bars to get fluids from. Most people use closer to 1 gallon of water a day just in food prep/clean up. If you lived a very sedintary lifestyle, and did not do any real activities, you might get away with 1 quart per adult per day, but not for long.
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1 quart of water, is no where near enough fore a person every day. Keep in mind, that you need to count all of the water you use, toilets(ok a hole in the ground gets rid of that), washing your self(teeth encluded), washing what you wear, washing your dishes, cooking with. and you will not have soda machines/coffee bars to get fluids from. Most people use closer to 1 gallon of water a day just in food prep/clean up. If you lived a very sedintary lifestyle, and did not do any real activities, you might get away with 1 quart per adult per day, but not for long.

umm i think when it comes down to a shtf situation, cleaning yourself is not going to be very high priority.
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