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Video cards and CPU scaling

So the 9700 nonpro/pro core is highly cpu dependant, right? What type of speeds are we looking at where the scaling tops out? I'm running a PR of 3200+ish right according to sandra

I am a 9700 noob Still gathering info.
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I find that a CPU is important to make the computer run.
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I find that a CPU is important to make the computer run.
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wouldn't it depend on the game?
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wouldn't it depend on the game?
No, cpu scaling helps performance in general.

For example my gf2 mx scores under 1000 3dmarks with my current cpu, and under 900 with a duron 850. This means that the card isn't very cpu dependant.

My 8500 scored ~6000 3dmarks with a tbird 1.3 and sdram, and 10k+ with ddr and a tbred @2049. This means it scales decently. After about 2100mhz, the score stops improving much with cpu speed.

The 9700 pro is completely worthless with slower cpu's (1.0-1.3 and under), but does great with faster ones. I was wondering where the scores start to show a diminishing return with cpu speed.

Why do I want to know this? The 9700 non pro i'm going to buy will cost me around $230, but I might want to up my cpu some more first. Here are my options:

1. Buy the slk-900u for $52 after shipping @ exacliberpc. I have the paypal funds (they do paypal) to do this right now. Keep current cpu and squeeze another 100-250 mhz out of it. Then i'll sell my AX-7 for about $15, so the total cost would be around $37

2. Buy a barton 2500+ for $129, and sell my current cpu which does 2210@1.74v for around 60-65 bucks if I can get that much. Throw in my $52 paypal and that leaves me only $12-17 short, which is no big deal.

3. Forget the CPU and keep saving until I get the $229 for the 9700 non pro @ newegg. No idea how i'll get the cash (maybe sell more hardware?)
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No, cpu scaling helps performance in general.

For example my gf2 mx scores under 1000 3dmarks with my current cpu, and under 900 with a duron 850. This means that the card isn't very cpu dependant.

My 8500 scored ~6000 3dmarks with a tbird 1.3 and sdram, and 10k+ with ddr and a tbred @2049. This means it scales decently. After about 2100mhz, the score stops improving much with cpu speed.

The 9700 pro is completely worthless with slower cpu's (1.0-1.3 and under), but does great with faster ones. I was wondering where the scores start to show a diminishing return with cpu speed.

Why do I want to know this? The 9700 non pro i'm going to buy will cost me around $230, but I might want to up my cpu some more first. Here are my options:

1. Buy the slk-900u for $52 after shipping @ exacliberpc. I have the paypal funds (they do paypal) to do this right now. Keep current cpu and squeeze another 100-250 mhz out of it. Then i'll sell my AX-7 for about $15, so the total cost would be around $37

2. Buy a barton 2500+ for $129, and sell my current cpu which does 2210@1.74v for around 60-65 bucks if I can get that much. Throw in my $52 paypal and that leaves me only $12-17 short, which is no big deal.

3. Forget the CPU and keep saving until I get the $229 for the 9700 non pro @ newegg. No idea how i'll get the cash (maybe sell more hardware?)
$15 for a used AX-7? BWAHAHA!!

Unless you plan on advertising your current CPU at 2.2GHz, you won't get that much for it.

Just buy a new goddamn CPU to go with your new vid card
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2. Buy a barton 2500+ for $129, and sell my current cpu which does 2210@1.74v for around 60-65 bucks if I can get that much. Throw in my $52 paypal and that leaves me only $12-17 short, which is no big deal.

3. Forget the CPU and keep saving until I get the $229 for the 9700 non pro @ newegg. No idea how i'll get the cash (maybe sell more hardware?)
2. The barton isn't going to be a really big speed increase at all over your currect CPU. It would be a waste of the money right now.

3. This is the correct answer. 2200mhz = a very fast CPU. I don't know how you could possibly need a faster CPU to work with the ati 9700.
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