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Woot, new gun and need some ammo help (xd 45)

So I finally got a XD 45 compact after putting it off forever. Picked up some remington 45 hollow point that the guy recommended. Anyways, I need to get down to the range and practice some, but im not sure what ammo I should buy.

I was planning to use that remington stuff for my CC ammo, but noticed that its characteristics are a little different than the cheap range stuff (185 grain vs 230) Should I find a different ammo for carry that more closely matches what I would use at the range? Also I see ammo prices all over the place, I never cared what I put through my SKS that much, but I dont want to use anything "bad" for the XD.. So whats a good brand of ammo for the range?
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Old 09-16-2008, 12:39 PM Figment is offline  
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Walmart sells Winchester .45 in 100 round boxes near me for $30 I think. I use the Winchester 9mm at the range with never having a hint of a problem and can only assume the .45 is of equal quality.

Edit: This is being shot through a Beretta 92FS.
Old 09-16-2008, 02:41 PM Klypr is offline  
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I own an XD-45 service, and i love it.

For practice, use whatever is cheap, safe, and available. No use on burning a hole in your wallet for plinking ammo. Buy a bunch of different defensive loads and test fire them, and pick one that you feel comfortable with. Personally, I use 230gr Gold Dots.

If you plan on carrying, I strongly suggest getting with a IPSC, or IDPA group in your area. Its competition shooting, but they use scenarios and keep you under pressure for time and accuracy, and it gets your heart going a little bit. To me, this allows me to use less ammunition, for far greater benefit, because im not just learning to hit a bullseye, im shooting on the move, on mulitple targets, in mulitple scenarios. In the event that I acutally have to use my weapon, im hoping that things will boil down to what ive practiced, since i have learned that your target isnt necessarily going to stand there to let you shoot them.


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Walmart sells Winchester .45 in 100 round boxes near me for $30 I think. I use the Winchester 9mm at the range with never having a hint of a problem and can only assume the .45 is of equal quality.

Edit: This is being shot through a Beretta 92FS.

Yeah, ive tried the white box stuff, it isnt bad. Cases are reloadable to boot, so its not a bad deal usually.
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:59 PM Defiler is offline  
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I have had pretty good luck with Winchester white box, and Fed American Eagle both in 230 grain out of my 1911. I would try and stay away from the UMC yellow box value pack though. I have had a couple problems with it. Plus when it boils down to price, it isn't much cheaper than a bunch of Win 100 packs anyway.
Old 09-16-2008, 04:22 PM dislexiclawyer is offline  
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the xd will actuall slow cycle some value brand ammo. it will feed fine but you can feel the difference. I've had good luck with blazer brass, and wwb
Old 09-17-2008, 03:43 PM Heathen-Yak is offline  
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I can't speak for XD and .45, but I have an M&P 9mm and shoot Blazer when I go to the range. Probably about 2000 rounds and I don't think I've ever had a single stovepipe, FTF, etc.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:57 PM Narcosynthesis is offline  
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actually i've had good luck with blazer brass, wwb has given me the most odd feeling rounds when fired. They all cycled fine but they felt funny.
Old 09-20-2008, 11:34 AM Heathen-Yak is offline  
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Blazer brass and winchester white box work great in my xd45
Old 09-23-2008, 01:56 AM T-Unit is offline  
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I've got two Springfield Armory XD .45ACP pistols. One Service model and the other a Tactical model. I actually use the 4" service model as my main carry gun. That one gets loaded with Remington Golden Sabers (185gr. Bonded JHP.) For target shooting I use Winchester white-box almost exclusively. I have used Remington UMC yellow-box stuff but that's crap. It always shoots to the left and down for some odd reason. The other ammunition I've tried never has done that. That happens with both XD's I've got. Their 9mm stuff also causes failures to eject and failure to feed problems in my Cougar 8000. So the UMC yellow box stuff is just crap in my opinion.

I don't care for Blazer but the Blazer Brass is ok from what I hear. The aluminum cased crap is absolutely horrible. That crap is the only thing to ever cause a failure to feed in my Beretta 92FS. I'd avoid that stuff. I've also tried American Eagle FMJ .45ACP rounds (230gr.) without any issues.

I've tried Speer Gold Dots in several pistols now and I've found that its' hit or miss for semi-autos. If you look at the casting on the bullets themselves its' pretty sloppy. This is why I think they cause failures to feed out of many firearms. I avoid that stuff in semi-autos in general as a result of issues I've had with it. I do however use Speer Gold Dots in my Smith & Wesson J-Frame .38 Special. I use the Speer Gold Dot .38 Special +P ammunition that I saw recommended somewhere. That weapon serves as my backup gun. Oddly this ammunition is cast very well and isn't as sloppy as the .45ACP, .40S&W and 9mm ammunition I've purchased in the past. I really think the only reason why law enforcement is so stuck on it has to do more with price than anything else. They are known to have excellent expansion characteristics but there are other brands out there that do just as well in this regard. So I am betting that cost is the real reason why many Law Enforcement Officers recommend it so often. They just go with what they know.
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Two suggestions:
1 - shoot a few boxes of what you plan to carry, just to get used to it. Generally, quality self-defense ammo will have a stronger charge than "range" ammo, so it won't matter what load you shoot at the range; it will behave differently regardless of projectile mass.
2 - give your magazines a good cleaning after a few range sessions. One of my friends has an XD40 "Tactical" that had a big problem feeding(would not return to battery), even with FMJ ball loads. He stripped and cleaned the magazines and the problem has not returned.
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Avoid remington UMC like the plague, it's so dirty and not very accurate.

Blazer Brass and Winchester white box are excellent, I find the Blazer Brass to be cleaner and a little hotter.
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Avoid remington UMC like the plague, it's so dirty and not very accurate.

Blazer Brass and Winchester white box are excellent, I find the Blazer Brass to be cleaner and a little hotter.

Yeah the UMC stuff is shit. I used to use it but something changed with it and now its' just crap. Out of about 3 different guns (two XD's and one 1911) it all shoots down and to the left. Nothing short of craptastic in my opinion.
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Yeah the UMC stuff is shit. I used to use it but something changed with it and now its' just crap. Out of about 3 different guns (two XD's and one 1911) it all shoots down and to the left. Nothing short of craptastic in my opinion.

i normally chew up the 10 ring with WWB or Blazer brass, but with UMC I shoot like a complete n00b. Lots of fliers, and when it comes time to clean the fouling takes so much work to get out. There's just carbon that I have to scrub and scrub before it clears up.
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Blazer brass and winchester white box work great in my xd45

just came back from the range after putting 100 wwb and 50 bb through my xd45 tac. I go back and forth for range use and have had zero issues,
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:17 PM En Sabbah Nur is offline  
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I've put every kind of ammunition through my 1911. (185/165 are the most fun) I've never had any problems with any of it.
Sure the UMC might be a little bit dirtier. The Blazer stuff ain't half bad either.

I'm sorry, but if you are saying one brand of ammo is causing you to shoot down/left, that is a very typical beginners flinching habit. Especially if this happens with different firearms. I would have to say you shoot left-handed. Ammunition doesn't cause inaccuracy that is consistent. I can still put everything within an acceptable MOA.

If this is a new firearm, don't even bother trying to figure out what brands of ammo to keep with until you've put about 1,000 rounds through it. Break it in first. In this process, you will find what ammo your firearm does not like.
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