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carry bullets question

The guy who owns the pistol range that I shoot at once said that he changes the bullets in his carry gun every 3 months. I was just wondering if there is any reason to do that?

I mean, i've got surplus ammo for my m1a from the 1970s that shoots fine.

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Old 10-02-2008, 02:50 PM daemorok is offline  
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I change mine out once a year, mostly because the HP's start to deform a little from being chambered/unchambered several times. Plus shiny new bullets are
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No sound reason. Why are you rechambering the same rounds over and over anyway?

I've never rotated, and even after not shooting one for several years, it still went bang each time when I decided to fire it again.

What's more likely to mess things up? Letting the rounds sit in a magazine or changing them out every 3 months? You're just creating room for problems.
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Its worth emptying the rounds regularly from your carry piece:

A) to continue firing the weapon and maintain marksman proficiency
B) to ensure reliability of the ammunition, so that when you need it, it goes.
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when i got my concealed carry, the course instructor told my brother and i a story about a shooting he responded to
the 80+ year old widow of a police officer shot at a burglar with her husband's .38 service revolover, her husband had been dead for 30 years or so and the rounds had corroded to the (shit, i'm an automatic guy, in a revolver, the section that holds the rounds, had rusted to there), my instructor confiscated the gun so that the police dept. could safely remove the rounds (all but one fired)

now, you don't want to go that long, but i could see the use of it, i conceal carry, and my pistol eventually attracts lint and such, so i break it down and wipe it down, i usually fire a few rounds through it, then clean it and reload it
and when i reload it, i swap out magazines so that i'm not constantly compressing the same spring
the more i handle my pistol, the more familiar i become with it, it allows me to notice when a certain part is wearing faster than it should, it lets me notice if the rounds are ejecting cleanly, and on and on, the more you use it, the more you'll be able to tell if something is going wrong or not

i can think of a few reasons why, they make sense to me, and it hasn't harmed anything yet
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No sound reason. Why are you rechambering the same rounds over and over anyway?

I've never rotated, and even after not shooting one for several years, it still went bang each time when I decided to fire it again.

What's more likely to mess things up? Letting the rounds sit in a magazine or changing them out every 3 months? You're just creating room for problems.

I rechamber them because I dont keep my gun loaded and ready 24/7. Others may think this is dumb, but different strokes for different folks. After enough times rechambering , the hollow points started to deform, which I feared would effect how it would feed. This would take a lot of time however, and believe it or not, even the deformed rounds would feed and function when I changed out ammo. The only time I keep my chamber "hot" is when im carrying it. If Im not carrying, I keep the chamber clear but with a full mag. In the event I am at home and something happens, ill have to retreat back into my room and get the gun, and it takes a fraction of a second to rack the slide.


as for whats more likely to mess things up? Id say neither. If a mag fucks up from being unloaded more than 4 times a year, theres something fucked up and you should get better mags, or a better gun that uses better mags.
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I never fired a firearm in my life but I guess that as with most things that you rely on, checking its basic functionality once in a while is recommended. Combine that with the need to practice your shooting, and I don't see why you shouldn't just bring your carry gun to the range.

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I never fired a firearm in my life but I guess that as with most things that you rely on, checking its basic functionality once in a while is recommended. Combine that with the need to practice your shooting, and I don't see why you shouldn't just bring your carry gun to the range.

edit: what 9mmCensor said

Thank you for your opinion.


Back on topic, I shoot my carry often every now and again but see no need to rotate it or anything of that nature. Once it's in my pistol, it stays there unless I shoot it. No unloading/reloading every time I put my gun on.
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I rechamber them because I dont keep my gun loaded and ready 24/7. Others may think this is dumb, but different strokes for different folks. After enough times rechambering , the hollow points started to deform, which I feared would effect how it would feed. This would take a lot of time however, and believe it or not, even the deformed rounds would feed and function when I changed out ammo. The only time I keep my chamber "hot" is when im carrying it. If Im not carrying, I keep the chamber clear but with a full mag. In the event I am at home and something happens, ill have to retreat back into my room and get the gun, and it takes a fraction of a second to rack the slide.


as for whats more likely to mess things up? Id say neither. If a mag fucks up from being unloaded more than 4 times a year, theres something fucked up and you should get better mags, or a better gun that uses better mags.

Rechambering a round is BAD in the long run. You could make your gun explode if you rechamber the same round too many times due to bullet setback. Invest in a good digital caliper if you plan on rechambering a round.
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Rechambering a round is BAD in the long run. You could make your gun explode if you rechamber the same round too many times due to bullet setback. Invest in a good digital caliper if you plan on rechambering a round.

im gonna have to get back to you on this, I found a little info on Google, but not enough to convince me of its plausibility, im gonna have to look into that.

BTW, im an avid reloader, and I reload ALL of my practice ammo, and I am well aware of what a overseated or compressed charge is and the dangers associated. That is why you use a crimp die, and exactly why all factory ammo uses crimps as well.
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im gonna have to get back to you on this, I found a little info on Google, but not enough to convince me of its plausibility, im gonna have to look into that.

BTW, im an avid reloader, and I reload ALL of my practice ammo, and I am well aware of what a overseated or compressed charge is and the dangers associated. That is why you use a crimp die, and exactly why all factory ammo uses crimps as well.

on some factory ammo (remington UMC FMJ) rechambering just two or three times can set it back enough so that I can visibly see a difference when compared to other rounds.

on others, they are more resistant. Just check your ammo before using and you'll be ok.
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I cycle mine once a year, fwiw... It's worth it to me for that extra peace of mind that comes from knowing the gun will fire every time i squeeze that trigger.
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IMHO I think cycling rounds is more important in revolvers. Revolver rounds are much more likely to face oil contamination than auto rounds, unless you dip your mags in oil for some reason.
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IMHO I think cycling rounds is more important in revolvers. Revolver rounds are much more likely to face oil contamination than auto rounds, unless you dip your mags in oil for some reason.

i'm more anal about keeping my piece clean, lint loves to build up in my magazines and my slide.
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oil contamination? http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39_2.htm I thought everyone knew that oil doesn't do anything to ammunition unless maybe you've got it in a pool of oil.
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