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By the way what is up with some people and their notion that the 50s were awesome?

I really don't pine to hit women, I don't care if black people ride in the front of a bus and I certainly would miss HDTV and internet... Plus now we know that Venus is more like Hell rather than Florida as well as a host of other discoveries. If anything i want to get into the future, not go back into a time of propaganda, red scare and all that stupid shit.

they miss the days when a single income paid for a house, a car or two, a wife, two point five kids and all your other bills, plus money to put away.

what they don't seem to understand is why things are not that way anymore. they blame the civil rights movement and feminism and liberals and immigrants and unions... not the economic realities brought about by their own economic theories being enacted by their own elected representatives.
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The only thing Orwell got wrong was the banning of books.

It's small, but it's there.

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not the economic realities brought about by their own economic theories being enacted by their own elected representatives.

That certainly didn't help, but globalization and general worldwide development are not trivial factors either.
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The only thing Orwell got wrong was the banning of books.

What did he get right? Censorship and all the big brother shit really isn't a factor. The government of any country these days could care less what you do at home. They know it's not much.
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they miss the days when a single income paid for a house, a car or two, a wife, two point five kids and all your other bills, plus money to put away.

what they don't seem to understand is why things are not that way anymore. they blame the civil rights movement and feminism and liberals and immigrants and unions... not the economic realities brought about by their own economic theories being enacted by their own elected representatives.

Yes they miss the idea of a strong middle class. Which is idiotically attributed to the customs of that era.

But it's during the 50s that the whole conservative movement gained ground and ruined everything. Maybe in that sense Orwell was right, in regard to the fear tactics to get people to vote against their own freedom and interest.

I guess the Patriot Act is basically what he had in mind?
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lol Tropic of Cancer... reminds me of Seinfeld.


Okay so the south banned Uncle Toms Cabin and some shit got yanked off the shelf for revealing classified info. Decades and decades ago. Honestly, not at all relevant to arguing that books are hand-picked or censored. You can buy a book on any topic today, anti government, pro government, or a bomb making manual if you'd like. The point is nobody cares.

So yes, Orwell was wrong and Huxley was right when you look at the big picture.
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You and your children and your grandchildren totally won't regret the country going back to the failed policies of the recent past.

Recent is clearly the key word. What this country was based on has never, and will never fail. Liberaltards thinking more government = a much better safety net is the problem. Government, control my money! I don't need to - Hell I can't even do it myself! Here Government, take my guns, I don't feel safe! Here Government, make my morality decisions, I can't come up with my own!
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lol Tropic of Cancer... reminds me of Seinfeld.


Okay so the south banned Uncle Toms Cabin and some shit got yanked off the shelf for revealing classified info. Decades and decades ago. Honestly, not at all relevant to arguing that books are hand-picked or censored. You can buy a book on any topic today, anti government, pro government, or a bomb making manual if you'd like. The point is nobody cares.

So yes, Orwell was wrong and Huxley was right when you look at the big picture.

Don't let the velvet fool you into thinking it's not an iron fist.
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Recent is clearly the key word. What this country was based on has never, and will never fail. Liberaltards thinking more government = a much better safety net is the problem. Government, control my money! I don't need to - Hell I can't even do it myself! Here Government, take my guns, I don't feel safe! Here Government, make my morality decisions, I can't come up with my own!

How about "Government don't let the financial institutions do whatever the fuck they want and destroy the world economy?"

Or is that too socialist for you?
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How about "Government don't let the financial institutions do whatever the fuck they want and destroy the world economy?"

Or is that too socialist for you?
That nigga thinks we be rollin with the caste system up in this bitch and wants to put more money in the pockets of the wealthy cause they look better and he wants to shine them shoes.

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what was this country based on

Slavery, drugs, war, theft, and genocide, with a few odds and ends here and there.
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Recent is clearly the key word. What this country was based on has never, and will never fail. Liberaltards thinking more government = a much better safety net is the problem. Government, control my money! I don't need to - Hell I can't even do it myself! Here Government, take my guns, I don't feel safe! Here Government, make my morality decisions, I can't come up with my own!

I was talking about the failed policies of trickle down economics, deficits don't matter spending and deregulation that put our country in the financial situation it is in today, not your new world order paranoid delusions.

The safety net has existed for many decades and is not the source of our deficits.
The government takes less of your money now than it has historically, especially during times of war.
No one is taking your guns away.
And if you want to talk about the government enforcing morality, you are picking on the wrong party. The libtards are not the ones telling you who you can and cant' marry, what legal medications or medical procedures you can have based on someone elses beliefs, or what you can and can't do with your vagina.
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