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I like craftsmen

my fave socket wrench by far is actually one of their cheap line tools - it's a lot smoother than their normal range ones and I hope it never breaks because I love it so much.

I have some misc snapon sockets and what not over the years that i've acquired, they work fine but aren't worth the piles of money.

buy a set of racheting wrenches on sale and a set of swivel plus socket extensions and a generic craftsmen medium sized tool kit and be happy with them - total cost about 300 bucks
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:54 PM Dongboy is offline  
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http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/to...ype=T&cat=2533

I have the first set shown with the green handles. Bought them 15 years ago and no regrets. I even converted a few Snap-on loyalists to them as well. Overkill for most, but the most confortable I have ever worked with, and tough blades as well.

Also: http://www.mytoolstore.com/klein/jsd1.html#jsds01

As far as pliers/cutters etc, Knipex tops the list. Insanely tough dykes, great pliers in general. http://www.knipex.com/

Sockets, Snap-on, Mac are the two best, but real overkill for anyone but pros whos use them constantly. I know it is heresy, but the Harbor Freight chrome 6pt sockets in 1/4 and 3/8 drive are just as good as the available Craftsman stuff. Cheap ratchets are garbage compared to the real deal (Snap-on/Mac/Matco).

Craftsman is just a name. They are not what they used to be.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:47 AM punisher is offline  
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Yeah their warranty used to be better but for the most part it's still pretty good.

For example; A few months back one of my ratchet wrenches broke. As I recall it would just spin and not ratchet. Anyhow I took it to the Sears and the guy reaches under the counter and pulls out a ratchet that has a thin around handle, and overall just looks of considerably lower quality than what I had. I don't recall exactly what I said but I was pretty pissed and he agreed to let me get one that matched what I had brand new off the rack, which used to be exactly what they'd do all the time.

They also went from a lifetime warranty on tape measures to only a lifetime warranty on the unit but not the blade itself. I was mad about this too because I had a problem with mine and instead of replacing it with another that had a lifetime warranty they offered to either refund my money or give me one without a lifetime warranty. Doesn't really sound like a lifetime warranty to me but whatever.

I do still buy their products though, for the most part they are still pretty good but they watch their bottom line a lot more than they probably used to.
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Klein makes incredibly durable screwdrivers/dikes/linesman pliers.

You can't really go wrong with them

what i mostly use, knipex pliers and channellocks
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I'm leaning towards this wiha screwdriver set:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002FTA4A

A westward socket set would be nice. I'll probably pick one up down the line.
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wiha are great for microtools, not sure about their large stuff.
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The price looked good. There's also the Klein that punisher mentioned:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001I0EAKC
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All of my tools are Craftsmen and so far I have been pretty happy. I will 2nd what others have said about newer Craftsmen vs older Craftsment ratchets. My dad has a set from the 70s and they are wayyyy better than the new stuff. The new stuff is not bad, its just the older stuff was built better. Regarding the Evolv set, the sockets are fine but the ratchets are junk. I have already broken two this year already. That being said, as long as you have the receipt they will give you a new one. I bought my Evolv set at the Outlet store and took it to the regular sears store and walked out with a replacement ratchet. Key thing, having the receipt. Craftsmen you do not need a receipt though. I had some sockets rust on me... took them in and got new ones no questions asked.

Regarding power tools... I'm a Makita fan. I got all of my dad's hand me downs and he bought his in the early 90s and they are still running.
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My normal sockets and wrenches are all craftsman. I bought a snap-on 3/8" ratchet and 1/4" ratchet because the craftsman ones are terrible. I think the vice-grips that I have are irwin. Fluke for multimeter. some off brand for the torx sockets. Oh, and most definitely snap-on for the torque wrench. the craftsman torque wrenches are utter shite.

Hammers/tape measures don't really matter. Although I wouldn't buy shitty precision measuring tools (calipers/scales/rules/micrometer).

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Yeah their warranty used to be better but for the most part it's still pretty good.

For example; A few months back one of my ratchet wrenches broke. As I recall it would just spin and not ratchet. Anyhow I took it to the Sears and the guy reaches under the counter and pulls out a ratchet that has a thin around handle, and overall just looks of considerably lower quality than what I had. I don't recall exactly what I said but I was pretty pissed and he agreed to let me get one that matched what I had brand new off the rack, which used to be exactly what they'd do all the time.

They also went from a lifetime warranty on tape measures to only a lifetime warranty on the unit but not the blade itself. I was mad about this too because I had a problem with mine and instead of replacing it with another that had a lifetime warranty they offered to either refund my money or give me one without a lifetime warranty. Doesn't really sound like a lifetime warranty to me but whatever.

I do still buy their products though, for the most part they are still pretty good but they watch their bottom line a lot more than they probably used to.

The Craftsman warranty states "repaired or replaced" with ratchets it is repair, and has been for a very long time. Not re-using perfectly good solid metal handles would not only be wasteful but also irresponsible for a company that size. Non refurbish-able items such as sockets, pliers, etc. are replaced. Ratchets used to be repaired on the spot, or customers were given a repair kit if they preferred, however this was changed so the rebuild process wasn't taking away from floor time of associates, so ratchets are refurbed in house and just swapped out as they come in now. In your situation that is wrong. You should have received the exact model first time, and not even offered a different one. The employee was wrong is this situation.

The tape measure situation did suck, however there was just too much ridiculous shit coming through with tapes, and it was a massive waste of money. Unfortunately the honest user paid for the idiots stupidity in this one. But now Craftsman doesn't make tapes at all anymore, so its a non-issue.

The only time you should get flak for a return is when obvious misuse or negligence is involved. If you bring in a screwdriver that is bent, thats negligence. Its a screwdriver, not a prybar. If you bring in a ratchet that is encased in rust, thats negligence. stop keeping your wrenches in water. If you bring in a wrench that has been heated and bent to a 90* angle..... well you get the point.

And Evlov is fucking junk. What the hell do you expect when your spending 19.99 on an entire set of sockets and a ratchet? Invest for fucks sake.
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