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Oh, and for those that don't know..

There was no independent nation called "Palestine" before the British designated a Jewish homeland...simply a broader region controlled by GB and before that the Ottoman empire. The whole idea that "Palestinians" are somehow culturally, linguistically or ethically different from other Arabs in the ME is just a perception perpetuated by Arab nations who refuse to take Palestinians as refugees...but have no problem sending them weapons and/or moral support in their fight to eradicate the Jews.

"Palestinians" had their chance at a state separate from Israel and they refused. They want the whole thing, but especially all of the modern infrastructure, agriculture and tech that never existed there before Israel.
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Seriously though, if Hamas/Palestine or whatever seriously want this to end peacefully, all they have to do is stop the attacks and magically watch as the support for Israel dries up, and Western nations would be more willing to intervene on their behalf if they asked.

and... why would that happen?
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Palestine isn't the one attacking.

If someone steals your wallet and the police refuse to do anything, what would you do?

over 3000 rockets so far this year say you are wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2014

the timeline of events says you are wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Is...mediate_events

but don't let that stop you from believing in your heart that you are still right.
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Palestine isn't the one attacking.

If someone steals your wallet and the police refuse to do anything, what would you do?
What if an Indian nation obtains a few rockets and decides to lob them at the nearest off-reservation city...would the U.S. government be unjustified in going on the res and putting a stop to it?

I'm not siding with Israel, like I've said before there is plenty of wrong on both sides, but saying that Israel has no right to defend themselves from attacks is ludicrous at best..
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buuuut buuuut..

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Seriously though, if Hamas/Palestine or whatever seriously want this to end peacefully, all they have to do is stop the attacks and magically watch as the support for Israel dries up, and Western nations would be more willing to intervene on their behalf if they asked.

Of course that will never happen since we have a case of Jews wanting to control the region as a Jewish state, and Palestinians wanting the same piece of land as an Islamic state.

israel is even offering them an unconditional cease fire continuation and they have rejected it.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...648750817.html
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and... why would that happen?
Because it's really hard to muster up sympathy for anyone that resorts to extreme violence, and if Israel continued after Hamas stopped then western nations would be obligated to step in no matter which side they're on now..
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and... why would that happen?

because if you act like a responsible nation state, you get treated like a responsible nation state.

if you act like belligerent jihadi cvnts, you get treated like belligerent jihadi cvnts

why do you not get that?

why does hamas not get that?
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time to #sampsonoption this thread


bye bye assfuck


genmay must be a wild dog

etc. etc.
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Ruho...just quoting this again so you can see what I was originally responding to..(not the right or wrong of Jewbagels vs ragheads for those keeping score at home)

So you and Rummy are of like mind now.

pretty much everything in that post is 100% true for all practical purposes, i don't understand
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because if you act like a responsible nation state, you get treated like a responsible nation state.

if you act like belligerent jihadi cvnts, you get treated like belligerent jihadi cvnts

why do you not get that?

why does hamas not get that?

I will send illegals to claim the land you are on.
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>presumes Israel acts like a responsible nation state

I think pyramid is trolling
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>presumes Israel acts like a responsible nation state

I think pyramid is trolling

If mexico fired rockets at us and obama didn't respond with overwhelming force, ~50% of the country would call him a traitor and a coward.
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I will send illegals to claim the land you are on.

that doesn't work when the people who are already there are far better armed and equipped...

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