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You can argue that you are a collector, but you are essentially collecting mass produced plastic with a picture on it. Hope it was worth it.

most things people collect are mass produced. baseball cards, beanie babies, shot glasses, movies, music, stamps, coins, etc. it can still be fun to collect em.
Old 12-03-2009, 06:11 PM isugoat is offline  
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The same reason I game primarily on consoles now. I dont have to worry about compatiblity or system performance or if my latest upgrade broke some of my old games. I plug it in and turn it on. It works every time.

No we're talking about a neo geo not a ps2 or gamecube, this isn't an issue.

Sure you may find it fun to collect but wouldn't you find it fun to collect something with a real use? Maybe feed people in Africa if you're feeling like spending money but have no valid use for it.

You are paying for plastic with a graphic on it. This is what's wrong with America, among many other things.
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Well now you're just trolling. The cognitive ability to apply a greater meaning to something beyond its innate traits is one of the things that makes us human. Americans hardly hold a monopoly on that. In fact, I'm guessing those Africans probably have beads and rocks they collect that they hold in higher regard than simply being a bead or rock.
You're in the Gaming forum. WTF are you doing here if you don't own one plastic cart or disc?
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Well now you're just trolling. The cognitive ability to apply a greater meaning to something beyond its innate traits is one of the things that makes us human. Americans hardly hold a monopoly on that. In fact, I'm guessing those Africans probably have beads and rocks they collect that they hold in higher regard than simply being a bead or rock.
You're in the Gaming forum. WTF are you doing here if you don't own one plastic cart or disc?

This is the digital age we don't need to own a disc especially when the ones who made it are not benefiting at all. This thread is basically "hey look at my collection." This is a forum to have a discussion. One could argue that praising ones collection is less valid then one discussing if that collection should be in the first place.

I am simply pointing out how absolutely pointless his collection is and how there's people that could use that money to eat/drink today, as apposed to buying something with NO valid use in the digital age.

Otherwise we might as well close this thread after the first post, what's there to discuss?
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Um because some people commented on it and talked about it?

If donating your cash to starving people is what you do go right ahead, I'll still continue purchasing neo geo carts. Everyone wins!
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There's no need to upgrade. When I setup an "emulation station" I got everything working how I wanted and then left it alone. I had a frontend load on startup and could control that with the controllers. Plug it in, turn it on. Works every time.
Not that I espouse emulators over the real thing. Collecting can be fun.

I've got everything from sega master system to the current gen minus like 3 consoles (pippin, CDI, etc). I want to use the original controllers, retain whatever multiplayer was originally included and have it look like it did when it came out (Ie I dont want to run it in supereagle mode etc). What is the easiest way to do that through emulation?

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No we're talking about a neo geo not a ps2 or gamecube, this isn't an issue.

Sure you may find it fun to collect but wouldn't you find it fun to collect something with a real use? Maybe feed people in Africa if you're feeling like spending money but have no valid use for it.

You are paying for plastic with a graphic on it. This is what's wrong with America, among many other things.

How is a neo geo cart any different from a super nintendo cart or a wii game?

I also dont see how you can say they dont have real uses. I play all my old games frequently. Its not a car sitting in someones garage being trailered to car shows, not that I even have an issue with that. If you dont like it dont buy any. More for me.

If you just want to troll why dont you go to the main forum? You're in the video game forum where pretty much everyone has at least one piece of plastic with a graphic on it.


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This is the digital age we don't need to own a disc especially when the ones who made it are not benefiting at all. This thread is basically "hey look at my collection." This is a forum to have a discussion. One could argue that praising ones collection is less valid then one discussing if that collection should be in the first place.

I am simply pointing out how absolutely pointless his collection is and how there's people that could use that money to eat/drink today, as apposed to buying something with NO valid use in the digital age.

Otherwise we might as well close this thread after the first post, what's there to discuss?

If you dont understand how having the original hardware is different from a rom dump you might as well stop arguing.

I'm off to ebay since I just recently regained my interest in expensive pieces of plastic.
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i think my main problem with emulation is the controller. There's no one perfect controller that'll play all of the systems right. The button layouts are usually pretty off and it can badly hamper the gaming experience.

Back onto the Neo Geo, i just got my system back with the S-video output and wow, everything is visibly much sharper then with composite. I wasn't expecting that much of a difference but the weird color rainbow on certain scenes is gone and the clarity is soo much better. the stereo sound is good, i can't really tell the difference then from before.The unibios is neat, allowing me infinite continues and language/blood options as well as difficulty and a sound test for each game.

I still need to give the connectors for both the system and the carts a good cleaning, some games are picky about when they'll start playing and how well they'll play, if they have sound, etc. the only games that work perfectly are magician lord, nam1975 and samurai shodown 2, so i know the system is good. the others have a tough time getting started but when they do they're good to go.
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No we're talking about a neo geo not a ps2 or gamecube, this isn't an issue.

Sure you may find it fun to collect but wouldn't you find it fun to collect something with a real use? Maybe feed people in Africa if you're feeling like spending money but have no valid use for it.

You are paying for plastic with a graphic on it. This is what's wrong with America, among many other things.

Get off your high horse for fuck sakes.

Tricking out your Geo Metro
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=819726

Home theater collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=735346

Your WoW collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=778315

Computer parts you want to buy and you bought a "digital" collection of WoW binary codes, OH NOES! Think of the Children you heartless bastard!
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=822948

Someone not drinking their own kool aid.

Generally I don't give two shits but after reading your asinine comments, felt I needed to defend fellow Neo Geo fans.

Don't fuck with Neo Geo.

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i think my main problem with emulation is the controller. There's no one perfect controller that'll play all of the systems right. The button layouts are usually pretty off and it can badly hamper the gaming experience.

Back onto the Neo Geo, i just got my system back with the S-video output and wow, everything is visibly much sharper then with composite. I wasn't expecting that much of a difference but the weird color rainbow on certain scenes is gone and the clarity is soo much better. the stereo sound is good, i can't really tell the difference then from before.The unibios is neat, allowing me infinite continues and language/blood options as well as difficulty and a sound test for each game.

I still need to give the connectors for both the system and the carts a good cleaning, some games are picky about when they'll start playing and how well they'll play, if they have sound, etc. the only games that work perfectly are magician lord, nam1975 and samurai shodown 2, so i know the system is good. the others have a tough time getting started but when they do they're good to go.

Definitely need to get an MVS mod to let you play MVS carts. MVS carts are SOOO much cheaper than AES carts. If you really get into the Neo Geo scene, get yourself a 1 or 2 cart board and consolize it. You can get video encoders for them that lets you use S-Video, Composite, and Component. If I remember correctly, all the arcade Neo Geo boards have console controller ports.
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I've got everything from sega master system to the current gen minus like 3 consoles (pippin, CDI, etc). I want to use the original controllers, retain whatever multiplayer was originally included and have it look like it did when it came out (Ie I dont want to run it in supereagle mode etc). What is the easiest way to do that through emulation?
obviously there are some situations emulation won't suffice. that's one of the reasons I specifically said
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Not that I espouse emulators over the real thing.
for the major systems and the arcade you can easily find controllers to hook up. i'm not saying one is better than the other, but when a system is perfectly emulated and their are good controllers, it's just easier to have one system contain everything. otherwise: http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=818373
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Get off your high horse for fuck sakes.

Tricking out your Geo Metro
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=819726

Home theater collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=735346

Your WoW collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=778315

Computer parts you want to buy and you bought a "digital" collection of WoW binary codes, OH NOES! Think of the Children you heartless bastard!
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=822948

Someone not drinking their own kool aid.

Generally I don't give two shits but after reading your asinine comments, felt I needed to defend fellow Neo Geo fans.

lol nice
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Get off your high horse for fuck sakes.

Tricking out your Geo Metro
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=819726

Home theater collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=735346

Your WoW collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=778315

Computer parts you want to buy and you bought a "digital" collection of WoW binary codes, OH NOES! Think of the Children you heartless bastard!
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=822948

Someone not drinking their own kool aid.

Generally I don't give two shits but after reading your asinine comments, felt I needed to defend fellow Neo Geo fans.

Don't fuck with Neo Geo.


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obviously there are some situations emulation won't suffice. that's one of the reasons I specifically said

If there's a good way to do it and meet all my criteria, I'm all for it. I havent seen any real decent setups that retain original style controllers for more than one console.

What would really be cool would be a usb tower that had a couple of plugs for old scuool console controllers on it. Id pay pretty good money for that and it would get me most of the way to being happy emulating.
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I remember samurai showdown 2 was game of the year in egm in 1995...I have no idea why I remember that.
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Get off your high horse for fuck sakes.

Tricking out your Geo Metro
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=819726

Home theater collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=735346

Your WoW collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=778315

Computer parts you want to buy and you bought a "digital" collection of WoW binary codes, OH NOES! Think of the Children you heartless bastard!
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=822948

Someone not drinking their own kool aid.

Generally I don't give two shits but after reading your asinine comments, felt I needed to defend fellow Neo Geo fans.

Don't fuck with Neo Geo.



Definitely need to get an MVS mod to let you play MVS carts. MVS carts are SOOO much cheaper than AES carts. If you really get into the Neo Geo scene, get yourself a 1 or 2 cart board and consolize it. You can get video encoders for them that lets you use S-Video, Composite, and Component. If I remember correctly, all the arcade Neo Geo boards have console controller ports.



well I was going to leave it be but lets dissect your comparison.

1. I was trolling with the geo metro I admitted this, I thought it was funny seeing the reactions I got. I got exactly what I was expecting, an online lynch mob

2. My setup sounded great and I resold it for more then I paid, it's not something that can be emulated and have the EXACT same experience. Again talking about neo geo emulation not ps2/gamecube. The difference in control is that you have a ton of controllers to choose from, for example the usb saturn controller would be better then the standard neo geo setup.

3. I was selling my wow account and made money off of playing a video game. A video game I downloaded legally. I don't see the point here.

4. Again computer parts can be used to put together a computer that has arguably over a million uses, one of which is emulation...my entire point

You do not argue the points I made, you just searched what I posted and proved absolutely nothing. I'm all for having a collection with a use, that I can't download for free without hurting anyone who made that product.
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Get off your high horse for fuck sakes.

Tricking out your Geo Metro
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=819726

Home theater collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=735346

Your WoW collection
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=778315

Computer parts you want to buy and you bought a "digital" collection of WoW binary codes, OH NOES! Think of the Children you heartless bastard!
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=822948

Someone not drinking their own kool aid.

Generally I don't give two shits but after reading your asinine comments, felt I needed to defend fellow Neo Geo fans.

Don't fuck with Neo Geo.



Definitely need to get an MVS mod to let you play MVS carts. MVS carts are SOOO much cheaper than AES carts. If you really get into the Neo Geo scene, get yourself a 1 or 2 cart board and consolize it. You can get video encoders for them that lets you use S-Video, Composite, and Component. If I remember correctly, all the arcade Neo Geo boards have console controller ports.


Holy shit this is an awesome post and I just wanted to bump this.
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