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I was actually expecting the ice burn to more along the lines of Mengele, but he'll work too...now that we have a running list of doctors, I was disputing the ridiculous comparison between Ron Paul and Nazi eugenics, so did you have an angle on that, or did you just wanna wow me with your talent for stating the obvious?

I was just making sure that before you go declaring shit in size 7 like it makes him a rock of moral righteousness like you were doing you knew 'the obvious', that even doctors can have ignorant views.

Because it sure didn't seem like you knew it.
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I was just making sure that before you go declaring shit in size 7 like it makes him a rock of moral righteousness like you were doing you knew 'the obvious', that even doctors can have ignorant views.

Because it sure didn't seem like you knew it.
It's not that I think being a physician makes him a rock of moral righteousness; he proves that every time he opens his mouth.

The size 7 was to point out the flaw in "all Libertarians are social Darwinists, like Nazis, therefore Ron Paul believes you aren't fit to survive." Just trying to follow that Roveian train of logic makes my fucking brain hurt. Worthless jackasses bearing partisan soundbites are the deepest problem facing our country. If you want four more years of the same nauseating shit we've had with Bush, do a Giuliani v. Clinton race.

Here's the funny thing: my liberal ass doesn't agree with Ron Paul on abortion, drugs, citizenship, taxes, guns, or the Federal Reserve. BUT, and this is important, he is not a populist beauty queen, aka "scumbag politician," nor is he up his own idealist-utopic ass. I have absolutely no illusions that any Democrat who might win in '08 is good for much besides keeping the bench warm for another Machiavellian Republican campaign, because the party has done Nothing -- capital-N Nothing -- to stand up for truth, justice and kittens lately.

It's telling people like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can't quite bring themselves to trust the guy because of the "R" beside his name, when -- correct me if I'm wrong -- they have both made a six-year career criticizing the Democratic party for....say it with me...HAVING NO BALLS. And Jon Stewart pretty much walks on water with me. I think he'll come around; any other year, Obama would look pretty good, because he is pretty good, for a politician.

I'll be voting, first and foremost, for the deFoxification of our lame-ass excuse for news media. Second, I'll be voting for thoughtfulness over sloganeering in politics. Third, I'll be voting against slaughter, imperialism, manipulating the public, and pissing away tax money per the Iraq war. So I'll be voting for Ron Paul. The fact his domestic platform has a little something for everybody (funny how the Constitution does that!) is an easter egg; nothing I listed above is changing from the [liveable] status quo until we elect George W. Bush III: Son of the Divider.

I'm not really looking forward to an election circus where people promise / threaten us with hot buttons, and meanwhile we sink a little further down the Idiocratic toilet. You?
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Instead of jumping into Godwin's law with both feet, you could, maybe, acknowledge the fact this guy has more moral fiber than all the other candidates put together, and also,


HE IS A DOCTOR.

Doctor doesn't mean shit. Josef Mengele was a doctor.

And Godwins law is trite and useless. Sure, sometimes Nazi analogies are uncalled for - but not when people promote survival-of-the-fittest ideologies they aren't.
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The size 7 was to point out the flaw in "all Libertarians are social Darwinists, like Nazis, therefore Ron Paul believes you aren't fit to survive." Just trying to follow that Roveian train of logic makes my fucking brain hurt. Worthless jackasses bearing partisan soundbites are the deepest problem facing our country. If you want four more years of the same nauseating shit we've had with Bush, do a Giuliani v. Clinton race.
Partisan? I'm not even American. I've just seen the guy on the daily show. The fact is, that America and its greed-driven medical system has a 36% higher infant mortality rate than the UK with its taxpayer-funded system, despite higher per capita spending on medicine. Ron Paul wants to take America further down that path - and it's OK because only lazy socialist babies are going to suffer for it.
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It's not that I think being a physician makes him a rock of moral righteousness; he proves that every time he opens his mouth.

The size 7 was to point out the flaw in "all Libertarians are social Darwinists, like Nazis, therefore Ron Paul believes you aren't fit to survive." Just trying to follow that Roveian train of logic makes my fucking brain hurt. Worthless jackasses bearing partisan soundbites are the deepest problem facing our country. If you want four more years of the same nauseating shit we've had with Bush, do a Giuliani v. Clinton race.

Here's the funny thing: my liberal ass doesn't agree with Ron Paul on abortion, drugs, citizenship, taxes, guns, or the Federal Reserve. BUT, and this is important, he is not a populist beauty queen, aka "scumbag politician," nor is he up his own idealist-utopic ass. I have absolutely no illusions that any Democrat who might win in '08 is good for much besides keeping the bench warm for another Machiavellian Republican campaign, because the party has done Nothing -- capital-N Nothing -- to stand up for truth, justice and kittens lately.

It's telling people like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can't quite bring themselves to trust the guy because of the "R" beside his name, when -- correct me if I'm wrong -- they have both made a six-year career criticizing the Democratic party for....say it with me...HAVING NO BALLS. And Jon Stewart pretty much walks on water with me. I think he'll come around; any other year, Obama would look pretty good, because he is pretty good, for a politician.

I'll be voting, first and foremost, for the deFoxification of our lame-ass excuse for news media. Second, I'll be voting for thoughtfulness over sloganeering in politics. Third, I'll be voting against slaughter, imperialism, manipulating the public, and pissing away tax money per the Iraq war. So I'll be voting for Ron Paul. The fact his domestic platform has a little something for everybody (funny how the Constitution does that!) is an easter egg; nothing I listed above is changing from the [liveable] status quo until we elect George W. Bush III: Son of the Divider.

I'm not really looking forward to an election circus where people promise / threaten us with hot buttons, and meanwhile we sink a little further down the Idiocratic toilet. You?
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Partisan? I'm not even American.

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Ron Paul wants to take America further down that path - and it's OK because only lazy socialist babies are going to suffer for it.
This is why I brought up his job as an obstetrician...it oughta stop you from pulling that assumption straight out of your ass, oughtn't it? Bueller?

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Oh, well then, fuck me sideways, you must have learned everything about his Nazi party socialist baby murder platform during that interview.

Oh, hey, we can watch it on the intertubes! Part 2:
http://www.jwharrison.com/blog/2007/...with-ron-paul/
"Medicare: not high on my agenda...yes but you have to have a transition period"

Wow, he addressed health care for all of six goddamn seconds, and said absolutely nothing to take issue with!

I'm far enough to the left everybody to the left of me is either a socialist or a fruitcake. And I understand your skepticism, it's healthy. But -- per the discussion in that link -- "we" do not have a candidate that suits us better, "we" have a field of DINO's that spent the last six years letting Bush do whatever the fuck he wanted because they were afraid of the GOP spin machine.

Read a little about "our" candidate. (I don't care if you're a Brit: you crashed the party, you can stick around for the fireworks.) Ideologically, Obama isn't the best guy on the stage if you want dyed-in-the-wool leftism, he just happens to be more electable than the Keebler elf. I'm of the opinion that settling for the lesser of several evils is almost as big a sin as demonizing an anti-Republican you haven't even bothered to find out about.

If you want neocons to keep running over the world with a zamboni, go ahead and root for the no-balls party's prettiest princess. I'll be seeking therapy for another four years of Tucker Carlson while you guys make sure it's okay with everybody else for you to have an opinion.

edit: oh, and for thoughtful humanitarian educatin' about health care, head your happy ass over to the health care thread and watch the CATO link I posted there.
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This is why I brought up his job as an obstetrician...it oughta stop you from pulling that assumption straight out of your ass, oughtn't it? Bueller?

Sorry, you seem to be confusing 'assumption' and 'fact'. Like I said, infant mortality is 36% higher in the US than in the UK. Ron Paul wants even more of the same - so its not melodramatic to suggest he will kill babies if elected. The reason I focus on babies, is so that you can't claim they haven't worked hard enough, aren't 'rugged individuals' or any other of that American Dream . The only thing you could argue is that their parents haven't worked hard enough, and that line of reasoning can be logically reduced to good old fashion eugenics in short order.

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Oh, well then, fuck me sideways, you must have learned everything about his Nazi party socialist baby murder platform during that interview.
He wants to take an action that will alleviate the tax burden on rich families by depriving poor families of healthcare. Social Darwinism, pure and simple. Nazism is just the logical endpoint of social darwinism.

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I'm far enough to the left everybody to the left of me is either a socialist or a fruitcake. And I understand your skepticism, it's healthy. But -- per the discussion in that link -- "we" do not have a candidate that suits us better, "we" have a field of DINO's that spent the last six years letting Bush do whatever the fuck he wanted because they were afraid of the GOP spin machine.
The lesser of two evils is still evil.

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Ideologically, Obama isn't the best guy on the stage if you want dyed-in-the-wool leftism, he just happens to be more electable than the Keebler elf. I'm of the opinion that settling for the lesser of several evils is almost as big a sin as demonizing an anti-Republican you haven't even bothered to find out about.
I wouldn't vote for him either. I don't think you realise how distasteful American politicians of all stripes are to Europeans.

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If you want neocons to keep running over the world with a zamboni, go ahead and root for the no-balls party's prettiest princess. I'll be seeking therapy for another four years of Tucker Carlson while you guys make sure it's okay with everybody else for you to have an opinion.
As the UK is unlikely to be invaded, it doesn't matter much to me. My main concern is chucking out our neocons. But at least most of them aren't crazy enough to dismantle taxpayer medicine for a fucking middle-class taxcut.

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edit: oh, and for thoughtful humanitarian educatin' about health care, head your happy ass over to the health care thread and watch the CATO link I posted there.
Can't find that particular link, but I have a feeling I know what they will say. And it doesn't matter, as the facts (American spends more per capita on healthcare than us dirty NHS-hugging commies, but has worse healthcare) speak for themselves.
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Sorry, you seem to be confusing 'assumption' and 'fact'. Like I said, infant mortality is 36% higher in the US than in the UK. Ron Paul wants even more of the same - so its not melodramatic to suggest he will kill babies if elected.
What in the holy fuck are you talking about?

Jesus Christ, the level of self-assured DIPSHIT in that post makes my eyes bleed. Find me "Ron Paul wants higher infant mortality" and I will suck the peanuts out of your asshole.

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He wants to take an action that will alleviate the tax burden on rich families by depriving poor families of healthcare.
aaaaaaand that'll do it.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THIS 'INFORMATION'?

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I wouldn't vote for him either. I don't think you realise how distasteful American politicians of all stripes are to Europeans.
Are you done sniffing your own asshole yet, or do you need another minute?

I apologize to Rapier, I stand corrected. We should have let Hitler run over your sorry ass.

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As the UK is unlikely to be invaded, it doesn't matter much to me. My main concern is chucking out our neocons. But at least most of them aren't crazy enough to dismantle taxpayer medicine for a fucking middle-class taxcut.
We don't HAVE any taxpayer medicine to dism...oh, fuck it.

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Can't find that particular link,
Yeah, it's the cleverly hidden CATO link in the health care thread called "Health Care" that reads, "CATO," you lazy, smug piece of shit. Who are you, Liam fuckin' Gallagher?
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What in the holy fuck are you talking about?

Jesus Christ, the level of self-assured DIPSHIT in that post makes my eyes bleed. Find me "Ron Paul wants higher infant mortality" and I will suck the peanuts out of your asshole.

Its called a 'conclusion' - logical people often draw them from the information they have.You might want to look into it.

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aaaaaaand that'll do it.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THIS 'INFORMATION'?
Its all there, right in front of you font boy.

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I apologize to Rapier, I stand corrected. We should have let Hitler run over your sorry ass.
Or maybe not financianced him in the first place?

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We don't HAVE any taxpayer medicine to dism...oh, fuck it.
Read it again dipshit. I was talking about the UK then.

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Yeah, it's the cleverly hidden CATO link in the health care thread called "Health Care" that reads, "CATO," you lazy, smug piece of shit. Who are you, Liam fuckin' Gallagher?
'liberalising' the private healthcare sector will take the US further in the direction it already is relative to the rest of the developed world. Therefore, more infant mortality. But in the fantasy world you and the CATO insitute occupy, its OK because the poor always make themselves such
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