General [M]ayhem

Go Back   General [M]ayhem > Real Time Sub-Forums > The Pit
Register Members List Mark Forums Read [M]erchandise Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Xayd
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMorlock View Post
Dan Rather has been dragged into court a dozen times for the same thing. For creating false stories that were Fake but True. He just thought that his ability to get away with it was full bore protection and so he tried it with a president and got stomped by BLOGGERS.


Try not to be a complete shitstain like spayed and dumbho.

If you actually think that King Dan didn't know he was using complete forgeries to base his "story" on you are a moron.

he should've just used himself as a source for his story, AMIRITE?

btw the story was true, documents or not. we've covered that before.

and will cover it again when some ignorant fuck denies it later today in this thread.
Old 07-29-2010, 09:50 AM Xayd is offline  
Reply With Quote
#166  

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]

TheMorlock
Contrary to my previous title I never fucked Inf's mother
 
TheMorlock's Avatar
 
Well since it is likely that he was party to the forgery...


And since it was so true there was not any evidence so the forgery is truthful because it got the truth out.


now go blather about faux news again and the vast right wing racist conspiracy.
__________________
There is nothing to worry about. Legions of wise people with nothing but all of best interests at heart are ensuring our future of love and infinite bliss. Go watch TV :Bflaps
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=572323
Old 07-29-2010, 11:25 AM TheMorlock is offline  
Reply With Quote
#167  

joemama
Watch Toomer burn those cowboys. How bout them cowboys?
 
joemama's Avatar
 
I wasted my time going through the posts in this thread again and I couldn't find anyone actually defending Fox news...simply some people pointing out that the NYT and other media outlets are the leftist counterparts. Is that what has xayd and pyramid so lathered up?

edit- of course I realize that in their twisted world view, left is always "right".
__________________
Rapid-fire double bass of the GenMay dru[M]mers collective

Syndrome of a Downs- drums/songwriter
._--_|\
/ииииииии\
\_.--Bumfuck Egypt
.......v
Old 07-29-2010, 03:22 PM joemama is offline  
Reply With Quote
#168  

Runding
 
Runding's Avatar
 
Sheesh, I don't check the forums for a day and this explodes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pyramid View Post
Yes, Yes for fucks sake they are. Do they have a slant, yes. do they get shit wrong, yes.

do they make it their business model to push a preconceived corporate agenda day after fucking day, every fucking day, no matter how detached from reality they are? FUCK NO.

That's the difference.
You've got another thing coming if you don't believe any news organization has a corporate agenda. You know, since they aren't in the BUSINESS to make MONEY, right?! There is no difference.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pyramid View Post

*snip*

and all that liberal media? yeah, they are all corporately owned mouth pieces as well. they generally aren't interested in informing you either. they want to get ratings and make money. there is no liberal media. there is the corporate media and the right wing corporate media. one just wants to sell you stuff, the other just wants to get you to vote republican and believe that lower taxes are good for poor people because if you raise taxes then our benevolent plutocrat overlords will take away all the jobs.

that's why under 8 years of GWB with some of the lowest tax rates and some of the laxest regulation in history we created a grand total of 3 million jobs and suffered one of the greatest depressions in a century and under that evil socialist Bill Clinton we suffered with 23 million new jobs, record profits, and balanced budgets.

but I'm getting off on a rant here...

Response to paragraph 1: " there is no liberal media. there is the corporate media and the right wing corporate media. one just wants to sell you stuff, the other just wants to get you to vote republican and believe that lower taxes are good for poor people because if you raise taxes then our benevolent plutocrat overlords will take away all the jobs. "

Are you serious? For reals? We've already established bias is in every news organization, so there must be a right and left media. "One just wants to sell you stuff" -- like LIBERAL agendas? FFS, man.

Paragraph 2: "that's why under 8 years of GWB with some of the lowest tax rates and some of the laxest regulation in history we created a grand total of 3 million jobs and suffered one of the greatest depressions in a century and under that evil socialist Bill Clinton we suffered with 23 million new jobs, record profits, and balanced budgets. "

Do you know anything about economics? You remember that one time Clinton signed a bill in 1999, allowing subprime mortgages and hedge funds to spiral out of control? Greenspan predicted that the collapse would happen -- and as liberal zealots like to think, GWB created that entire atmosphere, but it was their god of a president, Bill Clinton. That whole discussion is for an entirely different thread, but don't blame all of this on right wing news organizations and GWB -- especially when you apparently can't recognize where blame is truly due.
__________________
aa1ce3c1c9744c586fa4d28e62ff485b
Old 07-29-2010, 04:02 PM Runding is offline  
Reply With Quote
#169  

pyramid
COORS LIGHTSPEED: ENGAGED
 
pyramid's Avatar
 
actually it was mccain's 2008 economic advisor, phil gramm who wrote that deregulation and got it passed in 1999. Clinton just signed the bill with that deregulation hidden in it. Remember that? yeah, that was during the "republican revolution" and we were all terribly concerned about bill clinton getting his dick sucked at the time. republicans controlled both houses of congress from 1995-2007. yeah, I know where blame is due.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E...all_Act#Repeal

Hey, remember this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_loophole

yeah, that was phil gramm too. thank god mccain did not get elected.

And if you are talking about greenspan "predicting" bubbles in his 1977 doctoral thesis, then I guess you could say he predicted the economic collapse. Unfortunately he didn't do anything to stop it from happening when he had the power to do so and most people agree that the fed keeping interest rates artificially low for so long greatly contributed to the bubbles bursting. so... congratulations to greenspan for predicting his own future failure and then not doing anything to avoid it.

and just so we can clear up this liberal media nonsense, let's just look at who owns what. There are six major players that own the vast majority of our media, you tell me which company is liberal:

1. General Electric - NBC
2. Walt Disney - ABC
3. NewsCorp - Fox
4. Time Warner
5. Viacom
6. CBS

and if you want to compare MSNBC to FOX go right ahead. one station calls itself "the best place for politics" and the other is still wearing the ridiculous label of "fair and ballanced". One pretends to be the only place on TV that is willing to tell you the truth and the other regularly ends up debunking the "truthiness" of the first ones completely fabricated stories and lunatic rants with cold hard facts and some liberal smug. If you want to watch a clown do a little dance and cry on cue you watch fox. If you want to be misled by people who are either ignorant or outright lying to you, you watch fox. If you want to know why you are now stupider for having listened to glenn beck, you turn on msnbc and rachel maddow will quote the actual section of the bill that glenn beck was just ranting about and show you that is says the exact opposite of what glenn said it did. if you want to see contrived news created by video editing, you watch fox. if you want to see the full and unedited video of an event to understand the actual context, you watch msnbc. If you want to watch a highschool dropout who was drunk until he was 40 reinforce your preconceived notions about how the world works, you watch fox. If you want to watch a Rhodes Scholar with a degree in public policy and a PHD in philosophy tell you how the world actually works, you watch MSNBC.

So yeah, there's bias but one is a retarded drunken elephant with rabies and a video editing booth and the other reports actual facts with liberal opinion thrown in. You decide which you'd rather watch.
__________________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street
Old 07-29-2010, 05:41 PM pyramid is offline  
Reply With Quote
#170  

Runding
 
Runding's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyramid View Post
actually it was mccain's 2008 economic advisor, phil gramm who wrote that deregulation and got it passed in 1999. Clinton just signed the bill with that deregulation hidden in it. Remember that? yeah, that was during the "republican revolution" and we were all terribly concerned about bill clinton getting his dick sucked at the time. republicans controlled both houses of congress from 1995-2007. yeah, I know where blame is due.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E...all_Act#Repeal

Hey, remember this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_loophole

yeah, that was phil gramm too. thank god mccain did not get elected.

And if you are talking about greenspan "predicting" bubbles in his 1977 doctoral thesis, then I guess you could say he predicted the economic collapse. Unfortunately he didn't do anything to stop it from happening when he had the power to do so and most people agree that the fed keeping interest rates artificially low for so long greatly contributed to the bubbles bursting. so... congratulations to greenspan for predicting his own future failure and then not doing anything to avoid it.

and just so we can clear up this liberal media nonsense, let's just look at who owns what. There are six major players that own the vast majority of our media, you tell me which company is liberal:

1. General Electric - NBC
2. Walt Disney - ABC
3. NewsCorp - Fox
4. Time Warner
5. Viacom
6. CBS

and if you want to compare MSNBC to FOX go right ahead. one station calls itself "the best place for politics" and the other is still wearing the ridiculous label of "fair and ballanced". One pretends to be the only place on TV that is willing to tell you the truth and the other regularly ends up debunking the "truthiness" of the first ones completely fabricated stories and lunatic rants with cold hard facts and some liberal smug. If you want to watch a clown do a little dance and cry on cue you watch fox. If you want to be misled by people who are either ignorant or outright lying to you, you watch fox. If you want to know why you are now stupider for having listened to glenn beck, you turn on msnbc and rachel maddow will quote the actual section of the bill that glenn beck was just ranting about and show you that is says the exact opposite of what glenn said it did. if you want to see contrived news created by video editing, you watch fox. if you want to see the full and unedited video of an event to understand the actual context, you watch msnbc. If you want to watch a highschool dropout who was drunk until he was 40 reinforce your preconceived notions about how the world works, you watch fox. If you want to watch a Rhodes Scholar with a degree in public policy and a PHD in philosophy tell you how the world actually works, you watch MSNBC.

So yeah, there's bias but one is a retarded drunken elephant with rabies and a video editing booth and the other reports actual facts with liberal opinion thrown in. You decide which you'd rather watch.

There's so much crap in this entire post it practically reeks.

1) I'm not defending Republicans. Clinton should have had the smarts to read what he was signing, amirite? Both parties make stupid mistakes.
2) Greenspan gave a speech in the earlier 2000's about the upcoming collapse, but there's only so much the Fed can do when they actually have to work with the White House.
3) I'm not even going to pleasure you with a response about the last few paragraphs.

I'm really, really done discussing this with you. It's clear you've already made up your mind that liberal ideologies are your thing. That's totally fine man, I really could care less about how you feel about these issues, but you've turned our discussion from a "NYT/Newsweek is just as bad as Fox" to a "I'm just going to throw random political crap into a thread and end up derailing it entirely".

Sorry for messing up the thread, OP/Mods, I didn't mean to.
__________________
aa1ce3c1c9744c586fa4d28e62ff485b
Old 07-30-2010, 12:27 PM Runding is offline  
Reply With Quote
#171  

s0me0nesmind1
 
s0me0nesmind1's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyramid View Post
lower taxes, government is bad, business is good, liberals are the enemy, tax cuts generate jobs and universal wealth, regulation kills jobs and makes people poor, be afraid of dark skinned people (they are taking over your country), and everything obama does is wrong.

how/why do you think glenn beck stays on the air with no real advertisers? because it's not about making money like a real business. they do enough of that elsewhere. it's about pushing the message. no one cares if glenn beck's show generates money except maybe glenn beck. he is on the air to plant ideas in peoples heads. just like fox news.

OH lawdy you got problems if you don't think theres a liberal media bias but there is a conservative one. Someone truly has brainwashed you...

And kind of off-topic since we're past the main point of discussion and moreso onto ye' olde liberal vs conservative arguments.. I just wanted to say that there's a huge difference between judging people based on the way they talk, act, dress, and work versus racism. I'm not condoning either one so before someone gets butt-hurt and start flaming - I just wanted to get that across.
__________________
8e12bfe909ef9fcfaa2d400a638d4801 [y yuo throw haet :( :(] porn may <3's yuo.
◑ ◔
╔═╗
║▒▒▒▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
╚═╝
Old 07-30-2010, 04:33 PM s0me0nesmind1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
#172  

Gibonius
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1 View Post
OH lawdy you got problems if you don't think theres a liberal media bias but there is a conservative one. Someone truly has brainwashed you...

And kind of off-topic since we're past the main point of discussion and moreso onto ye' olde liberal vs conservative arguments.. I just wanted to say that there's a huge difference between judging people based on the way they talk, act, dress, and work versus racism. I'm not condoning either one so before someone gets butt-hurt and start flaming - I just wanted to get that across.

I don't think that's really what he's saying. Various media institutions have a "liberal bias," but it's a deliberate affection for ratings/subscriptions. The parent corporation doesn't really want to push a liberal political agenda but they put up with it for money. Fox, on the other hand, absolutely wants to push conservative policies and will do whatever they can do make that happen.
Old 07-30-2010, 04:47 PM Gibonius is offline  
Reply With Quote
#173  

pyramid
COORS LIGHTSPEED: ENGAGED
 
pyramid's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1 View Post
OH lawdy you got problems if you don't think theres a liberal media bias but there is a conservative one. Someone truly has brainwashed you...
Look man, there's like three shows on all of TV where you could claim a legitimate liberal bias. They are all on MSNBC. Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, and Ed Schultz. Thats the entirety of the liberal media. The problem with conservatives is every time they hear a news story they don't like they call it liberal bias. Normal people call it reality.

If you think NBC, ABC, CBS are liberal in their news reporting then you don't even know what news is because they don't even do real news anymore. They do news light. You can get just as well informed by skimming the headlines at google news as you can watching any major networks half hour news casts. There's so little substance it can't even have much of a slant.

Fox on the other hand is all about pushing messages. They put an "issue" out on one of their opinion programs, one of their "news" programs picks up the story as if it were real, and pretty soon that story is running on every Fox show, all day, all week, until they believe the message is out. They played that clip of the two new black panthers at the polling place in 2008 like 48 times over a two week period this year because that was the story they were pushing. A two year old non-story about black people getting uppity who's only purpose was to enrage conservative viewers and push the idea that black people are taking over their country and white people are now the oppressed minority.

If you can't see a major difference between GE tolerating three liberals on one of their minor networks versus an entire network dedicated to pushing republican/conservative/tea party ideals 24/7/365 then I don't think it is me who has been brainwashed.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post
I don't think that's really what he's saying. Various media institutions have a "liberal bias," but it's a deliberate affection for ratings/subscriptions. The parent corporation doesn't really want to push a liberal political agenda but they put up with it for money. Fox, on the other hand, absolutely wants to push conservative policies and will do whatever they can do make that happen.

exactly. thank you for explaining it better than I apparently did.
__________________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street

Last edited by pyramid; 07-30-2010 at 05:45 PM..
Old 07-30-2010, 05:36 PM pyramid is offline  
Reply With Quote
#174  

pyramid
COORS LIGHTSPEED: ENGAGED
 
pyramid's Avatar
 
If you can stand 12 minutes of listening to a liberal news source Rachel Maddow recently did a great segment explaining how fox pushes a story and how it's not even new:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...53636#38353636
__________________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street
Old 07-30-2010, 05:42 PM pyramid is offline  
Reply With Quote
#175  

Yasoff
 
I think if research was done, a lot of the Tea Party sympathisers would be found to have racist tendencies. What is so bad about that?
__________________
I hear and I forget.
I see and I remember.
I do and I understand.
Old 08-09-2010, 01:12 PM Yasoff is offline  
Reply With Quote
#176  

topcat989
 
topcat989's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yasoff View Post
I think if research was done, a lot of the Tea Party sympathisers would be found to have racist tendencies. What is so bad about that?

Old 08-09-2010, 05:20 PM topcat989 is offline  
Reply With Quote
#177  

Straw Man
RuHo
And my head I'd be scratchin' while my thoughts were busy hatchin; If I only had a brain......
 
Straw Man's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by topcat989 View Post

Post some black panther videos, they surely give a more objective view on everything
__________________
"dogs came to man to make friends and help us hunt and guard unlike pigs"
-lolergay
Old 08-09-2010, 05:37 PM Straw Man is offline  
Reply With Quote
#178  

topcat989
 
topcat989's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RuHo View Post
Post some black panther videos, they surely give a more objective view on everything

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
Old 08-09-2010, 06:18 PM topcat989 is offline  
Reply With Quote
#179  

Xayd
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Runding View Post
There's so much crap in this entire post it practically reeks.

1) I'm not defending Republicans. Clinton should have had the smarts to read what he was signing, amirite? Both parties make stupid mistakes.
2) Greenspan gave a speech in the earlier 2000's about the upcoming collapse, but there's only so much the Fed can do when they actually have to work with the White House.
3) I'm not even going to pleasure you with a response about the last few paragraphs.

I'm really, really done discussing this with you. It's clear you've already made up your mind that liberal ideologies are your thing. That's totally fine man, I really could care less about how you feel about these issues, but you've turned our discussion from a "NYT/Newsweek is just as bad as Fox" to a "I'm just going to throw random political crap into a thread and end up derailing it entirely".

Sorry for messing up the thread, OP/Mods, I didn't mean to.

1) it was one line in a 3000 page bill if i remember correctly?
2) the fed can do whatever it wants
3) yes, you're defending (badly)

how about you back up your original claim about how the market collapse in 2008 was the fault of the president from 1999 and we'll make fun of you point by point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMorlock View Post
Well since it is likely that he was party to the forgery...


And since it was so true there was not any evidence so the forgery is truthful because it got the truth out.


now go blather about faux news again and the vast right wing racist conspiracy.

since bush's PR hack himself was admitting to everything in the story, you mean?

a confession makes it true.

nice straw man on line 3. that always works so well, doesn't it? until the next post, anyways....dumbass.
Old 08-10-2010, 05:11 PM Xayd is offline  
Reply With Quote
#180  

Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:38 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.