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Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

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Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

A New Jersey college student has leapt to his death a day after authorities said two students secretly filmed him having sex with a man and broadcast it over the internet.

Tyler Clementi's wallet was found on the George Washington Bridge on 22 September after two witnesses saw someone jump from the structure, authorities told the AP news agency.

Mr Clementi's body has been found.

Two students have been charged with illegally filming the 18-year-old.

"Tyler was a fine young man, and a distinguished musician. The family is heartbroken beyond words," Paul Mainardi, a lawyer for Mr Clementi's family, said in a statement confirming the suicide.

The teenage violinist's body was identified on Thursday after his body was found in the Hudson River a day earlier.
Room-mate charged

The footage was allegedly taken using a web camera in Mr Clementi's dorm room at Rutgers University and broadcast live over the internet.

The two charged with filming and broadcasting the images are Mr Clementi's room-mate, Dharun Ravi, and Molly Wei.

If convicted, the two students face up to five years in prison.

An account belonging to Mr Ravi on the microblogging website Twitter has recently been deleted. But in a recovered snapshot of the account obtained from Google, Mr Ravi wrote about an experience involving his room-mate.

"Room-mate asked for the room till midnight. I went into molly's room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay," Mr Ravi wrote on Twitter on 19 September.

Two days later Mr Ravi wrote: "Anyone with iChat, I dare you to video chat me between the hours of 9:30 and 12. Yes it's happening again."

Gay rights organisations say Mr Clementi's suicide is an example of a nationwide problem - young people killing themselves after being bullied over their sexuality.
Regardless of the fact that the video was posted online, I would have to say I am most disturbed by the part in red.

When did we as a society become so weak that we haven't taught our children how to deal with this kind of emotional stress where they end up killing themselves?

I can't help but wonder if this kid had the self-confidence to punch his roommate in the mouth he might not have offed himself.

Was the roommate wrong? Yes. But, I don't know if I would kill myself over being gay and people finding out.

Plus, I really don't see it being possible or even logical to consider that we could have the power to change and control 7 billion people so they aren't dumbasses. We should realize we only have the power to change ourselves and that we can only persuade others to change, not force them to change.
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motherfuckers are calling this BS a fucking hate crime.

if you videotaped your straight roommate having sex, no one would call it anything.

The dude straight up told his roommate that he wanted the room to himself on those nights, didn't he think someone might notice that a dude was leaving?

if you are gay, you are gay. fucking man up bitch. this is the 21st fucking century.
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This is a sad and strange situation. The kid who ended up killing himself doesn't seem to have been closeted (he told his roommate he wanted to bring a guy over) and was quite rational after the incidents took place. He posted a bunch of messages on a forum about the topic:

http://gawker.com/5651659/is-this-we...-call-for-help

I also don't think any recording was done, just watching the events through a webcam feed. It's still a lousy thing to do, but I think it changes the legal tenor a bit if nothing was recorded/ed. The roommate deserves some punishment for this, but I don't see how it's really a hatecrime, just a douche roommate move.

As far as the kid killing himself/learning to be stronger etc, nobody in their right mind kills them self, and so having more self-esteem really wouldn't make any difference. He has to have been depressed or dealing with some other mental illness under the surface. Other than seeking proper psychiatric care, I don't really see how there's much he could have been taught to prevent the suicide.
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Without reading their minds it's most likely not a hate crime at all...they probably would have, and I know plenty of people in high school/college who would have, taped him having sex with a female, horse, or a leprechaun. Invasion of privacy is a proper charge, and getting in trouble for posting it online, but that's it.

I could see why someone might commit suicide after people finding out they are gay. Being gay is only acceptable in certain communities. For a long time it was considered a mental disease or disorder. Some people really look down on it. Maybe his parents were christian fundies, or his friends had made remarks about gays in the past and he just kept quiet or went along while being secretly gay? Who knows, sad either way that he didn't feel comfortable enough to even talk to his parents.
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i dont know why he killed himself. i thought gay pornstars make big money. he just BLEW his career
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I don't understand this thread.

Are we supposed to discuss valid reasons to kill yourself or what?
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I think we're supposed to confirm to trachei that his heteronormative universe didn't kill anyone and if only the poor bastard offing himself was a masculine man, manning his manliness like a man would mannigly man, everything would be ok

(and no to prop8)
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Damn right. Killing yourself is so 1990's
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I don't understand this thread.

Are we supposed to discuss valid reasons to kill yourself or what?

We can start a new Genetic Health campaign


Weed Out Insanity from the Gene Pool: Kill Yourself NOW


Like sell tshirts or something
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I think we're supposed to confirm to trachei that his heteronormative universe didn't kill anyone and if only the poor bastard offing himself was a masculine man, manning his manliness like a man would mannigly man, everything would be ok

(and no to prop8)

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Regardless of the fact that the video was posted online, I would have to say I am most disturbed by the part in red.

When did we as a society become so weak that we haven't taught our children how to deal with this kind of emotional stress where they end up killing themselves?

I can't help but wonder if this kid had the self-confidence to punch his roommate in the mouth he might not have offed himself.

Was the roommate wrong? Yes. But, I don't know if I would kill myself over being gay and people finding out.

Plus, I really don't see it being possible or even logical to consider that we could have the power to change and control 7 billion people so they aren't dumbasses. We should realize we only have the power to change ourselves and that we can only persuade others to change, not force them to change.


I do think suicide was an extreme solution to the problem, though. The hate crime bit is taking this a bit far, as most special interest groups generally take things of this nature.
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Shouldn't really be anything more than an invasion of privacy deal and maybe poor conduct on school grounds.
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Shouldn't really be anything more than an invasion of privacy deal and maybe poor conduct on school grounds.



Filming someone having sex in a private residence without their consent only constitutes an invasion of privacy? I would thin it's a bit more than that
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I'm sure a slimy lawyer could do better with less than that.
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