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my gf is practically a vegetarian. i like meat. i have no problems with her eating habits, nor anyone else's, as long as they dont interfere with mine (as in, "oh, i wont go to any restaurant that serves meat ")

really, it's a personal choice and as long as you don't try to preach to me about animal cruelty because i like eating meat (that's what she said, amirite)
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Hradcore veggie here, going on vegan. here is my contribution.

Yes, humans have evolved to eat meat. We have canine teeth and the necessary enzymes in our digestive system. That doesn't mean we can't survive without meat.

I'm a vegetarian going on vegan purely for ethical reasons. I disagree with how animals are intensely reared and slaughtered and how we humans can go to the shops and buy a pack of mince and we don't have to put any thought into where it came from and the cruelty that is behind it.

A lot of people simply do not know where their meat comes from or even what an abbatoir is. This really sickens me. They do not know about battery farmed chcikens or the cruelty involved with their glass of milk.

Our demand for meat and dairy is so high that simple methods of low intensity farming are impossible so we have to resort to huge, high intensity farms that rear the animal as quickly as possible and get it on our plate. If people could be bothered to do some research and open their minds on the subject a lot more people would convert. Due to human laziness and how people are obsessed with what other people think of them all the time, this won't happen.

I don't rattle on about my diet choice. If I'm in a restaurant I don't declare 'i'm veggie -bare with me a second'. I simply order and 90% of people won't notice I chose the veggie option. If they do notice, I simply say I'm a veggie and again, 90% of people will leave it at that.

You can normally tell the ones who will keep pressuring you to give them an answer as to why you don't eat meat. They're usually blokes of the macho man variety and very close minded. Don't waste your time on them.

Be proud to be veggie.

Why not go out and hunt your own meat? Those animals weren't cruelly reared (usually).
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my gf is practically a vegetarian. i like meat. i have no problems with her eating habits, nor anyone else's, as long as they dont interfere with mine (as in, "oh, i wont go to any restaurant that serves meat ")


I totally agree with the statement above. I don't care what people eat, if you want to only eat human flesh it wouldn't bother me as long as you don't try to force it on me. I've gone out with a few friends that are vegetarians and every once and a while they try to convince me how bad it is to eat meat and that it is wrong. I don't tell them to eat meat so why are they telling me i shouldn't.....
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/10/2...jonathan.foer/

Whatever side you're on, that's an interesting article to read.

While I'm not a vegetarian, I am extremely picky about the meat I consume. I try to find out exactly where it's coming from, what's in it, and how it was raised, mostly for my own sake. I think many of the ways we eat and farm are environmentally harmful as well, so I'm very supportive of sustainable local farmers and hunted meat.
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Do you have any proof about that first sentence you made? Not saying you're wrong I'm just a little intrigued and I want to read up on it.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/..._10084455.html

http://www.wellsphere.com/healthy-ea...n-brain/625104

http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry...r_the_incr.php
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/10/2...jonathan.foer/

Whatever side you're on, that's an interesting article to read.

While I'm not a vegetarian, I am extremely picky about the meat I consume. I try to find out exactly where it's coming from, what's in it, and how it was raised, mostly for my own sake. I think many of the ways we eat and farm are environmentally harmful as well, so I'm very supportive of sustainable local farmers and hunted meat.

I'm extremely picky about my food, even when it's (for) a vegetarian or vegan meal.
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I think one of the defining characteristics of being human is our ability to meticulously catalog literally hundreds of thousands of different species of plants and animals, and then kill and eat all of them.
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Why not go out and hunt your own meat? Those animals weren't cruelly reared (usually).



I was a veggie for three years, but recently stopped because I wasnt gaining any weight however much I ate I just burnt it off since I have a high metabolism, but Im not the type to always have "eating" on my mind which might be why, but I know I have put on weight since though. I went on holiday, came back and had a stomach bug, lost a fair bit of weight from it, so decide to go back eating meat, it was a hard decision, I even felt a tad depressed when I ate the first piece of meat.

Im actually thinking of going back to being a veggie when I move out of my mums since Ive been back from University, because I actually enjoy the food more, without having too much to it. When youre cooking meat you have to do a lot to make it enjoyable, whereas I find veggie options are easier, quicker and fills me up a lot longer too.

Watch this and tell me you guys dont care, I feel sick from watching it, but for health reason as I explained above. The bottom is only a short clip, but theres a full feature called Meet Your Meat, it will open your eyes and youll think twice about where your and my meat comes from and how its treated.

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^^ there are people who aren't aware of factory farms? what, they expect old mcdonald and lucy the cow?
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As a big-time meat eater, I also agree that factory farming leaves a lot to be desired from an ethical standpoint. But if you're willing to pay the premium, you can buy pastured meat in most areas. As a bonus, it's actually healthier for you anyway.
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Glad you completely avoided the question XD
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My dad is a vegetarian, and his reasoning is that he just didn't care for the taste of meat. He was eating a burger and realized his favorite thing about it was all the stuff around the meat. But he still uses leather and such. I think he felt bad about raising me in a Veggie household, he was always trying to buy lunch meat for my school lunches, but I loved the vegetarian meals he made. I eat a lot of meat but I have a soft spot for tofu.

The people that I have a problem with are Militant Vegans. PETA gets on my last fucking nerve. Hell even my Dad hates PETA. Eat what you want to eat,it makes no difference to me, but don't get in my face telling me I am a horrible human because I enjoy the taste of meat.
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My dad is a vegetarian, and his reasoning is that he just didn't care for the taste of meat. He was eating a burger and realized his favorite thing about it was all the stuff around the meat. But he still uses leather and such. I think he felt bad about raising me in a Veggie household, he was always trying to buy lunch meat for my school lunches, but I loved the vegetarian meals he made. I eat a lot of meat but I have a soft spot for tofu.

The people that I have a problem with are Militant Vegans. PETA gets on my last fucking nerve. Hell even my Dad hates PETA. Eat what you want to eat,it makes no difference to me, but don't get in my face telling me I am a horrible human because I enjoy the taste of meat.

I have no problem with leather, if it's used properly. I suppose I have a problem with people killing endangered animals, so they can have fur coats, or for the purpose of mounting their heads on walls. If you're going to kill a deer, you better eat it or fuck off. I don't get why you would want to kill for "sport" or "trophies."

I have no idea why, but leather daily/work coats don't bother me... but when it comes to some princess-bitch toting a handbag made of whale penis, or a fur coat, it's like "seriously?"


None of those ethical points have anything to do with eating meat, by the way.
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I have no problem with leather, if it's used properly. I suppose I have a problem with people killing endangered animals, so they can have fur coats, or for the purpose of mounting their heads on walls. If you're going to kill a deer, you better eat it or fuck off. I don't get why you would want to kill for "sport" or "trophies."

I have no idea why, but leather daily/work coats don't bother me... but when it comes to some princess-bitch toting a handbag made of whale penis, or a fur coat, it's like "seriously?"


None of those ethical points have anything to do with eating meat, by the way.

Im the same way with trophy mounts I see on peoples walls. I think its a waste of antler I could make something with. Eat the meat, tan the hide, and make things out of the bones and antlers.
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I was a veggie for three years, but recently stopped because I wasnt gaining any weight however much I ate I just burnt it off since I have a high metabolism, but Im not the type to always have "eating" on my mind which might be why, but I know I have put on weight since though. I went on holiday, came back and had a stomach bug, lost a fair bit of weight from it, so decide to go back eating meat, it was a hard decision, I even felt a tad depressed when I ate the first piece of meat.

Im actually thinking of going back to being a veggie when I move out of my mums since Ive been back from University, because I actually enjoy the food more, without having too much to it. When youre cooking meat you have to do a lot to make it enjoyable, whereas I find veggie options are easier, quicker and fills me up a lot longer too.

Watch this and tell me you guys dont care, I feel sick from watching it, but for health reason as I explained above. The bottom is only a short clip, but theres a full feature called Meet Your Meat, it will open your eyes and youll think twice about where your and my meat comes from and how its treated.

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

that that video is pretty crazy, but not every farm is like that. I know about 100 farmers (at least) and all their facility's are well run, they respect the animals, everywhere between chickens all the way up to buffaloes. Buffalo meat
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