FPS Russia tests G2 RIP ammo

[lollersk8s]

Originally Posted by pyramid

The report was good but it centered on low velocity handgun rounds. TuT would probably be shooting at you with a high velocity rifle round.

also, ability to respond does not mean survival.

apples =/= oranges

We're talking about pistol rounds.

[The Unflushable Turd]

Originally Posted by lollersk8s

What happened to stopping power

Thought you could shoot me anywhere as long as it's a 45

Of course.
45 has stopping power.
That's why when you get shot with a 45 you get stopped.

[The Unflushable Turd]

Originally Posted by lollersk8s

We're talking about pistol rounds.

i'm talking about high velocity 3 inch magnum turkey shells, #4 would put a hurt on someone.

[lollersk8s]

Originally Posted by The Unflushable Turd

Of course.
45 has stopping power.
That's why when you get shot with a 45 you get stopped.

Except you don't unless you get hit in the brain stem or brain

[lollersk8s]

Originally Posted by The Unflushable Turd

i'm talking about high velocity 3 inch magnum turkey shells, #4 would put a hurt on someone.

If you shot a guy with one in the chest, and he shot you in the upper face with a 9 you'd lose. Regardless of whether or not he dies later that day, when you die too it's not exactly winning.

aim & sufficient penetration = most important

extra penetration and KE = makes it harder to aim for 2nd and 3rd shot, no real benefit against unarmored target

[pyramid]

Originally Posted by The Unflushable Turd

i'm talking about high velocity 3 inch magnum turkey shells, #4 would put a hurt on someone.

shotgun shells are not high velocity. a 3" magnum 12ga is only gonna get you like 1300-1400FPS.

[lollersk8s]

Originally Posted by pyramid

shotgun shells are not high velocity. a 3" magnum 12ga is only gonna get you like 1300-1400FPS.

shottys are brutal of course no matter what - if he's got that ready I'm not coming

[Baloneyflaps.]

never owned a gun


never fired a gun


read PDF on internet


became expert

[lollersk8s]

own a gun,
fired it and many others,
read PDF on internet, understand the dynamics better than you

[Baloneyflaps.]

[lollersk8s]

Just because i'm not a neanderthal who opposes sensible control of firearms in this country doesn't mean I don't own or understand what they can and can't do

[The Unflushable Turd]

Originally Posted by pyramid

shotgun shells are not high velocity. a 3" magnum 12ga is only gonna get you like 1300-1400FPS.

that's still high velocity compared to a pistol ~800 FPS.
keekes

[topcat989]

Originally Posted by lollersk8s

sensible control of firearms

Just what the fuck is that, btw?

[lollersk8s]

BG checks, reporting of mental disorders, registration - any/all measures that keep guns away from known criminals, psychos or generally volatile people.

I know guys like you stick with the "can't stop all of them, may as well do nothing" reasoning, and I've also heard every other excuse to deter regulation. All of which falls short of making sense unless you're a gun manufacturer lobbyist.

[topcat989]

Originally Posted by lollersk8s

BG checks, reporting of mental disorders, registration - any/all measures that keep guns away from known criminals, psychos or generally volatile people.

I know guys like you stick with the "can't stop all of them, may as well do nothing" reasoning, and I've also heard every other excuse to deter regulation. All of which falls short of making sense unless you're a gun manufacturer lobbyist.

as opposed to "let's keep making laws restricting them more and more 'till nothing bad ever happens"


"If it saves just ONE life......"