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Im glad you were able to stop yourself before it ruined your life, but there are different levels of addiction/predisposition to things. Addiction to these things runs outside of all rational thought.

Nobody said it was the root of all evil. Im all for casinos in a couple of historic places (vegas, reno) as I dont see the actual act as anything wrong. However knowing the social harms it does cause for people I will not endorse widespread gambling. I dont know why anyone would be a proponent of gambling unless they stood to gain from the industry. Its bad for just about everyone involved except for the casino owners.

And its the problem of the person with the addiction. Or should we outlaw stamp collecting?

Should we only allow it in a couple historical places?

get a fucking clue moron
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And its the problem of the person with the addiction. Or should we outlaw stamp collecting?

Should we only allow it in a couple historical places?

get a fucking clue moron

So your idea is just to turn a blind eye to the problems it causes and just rely on personal accountability. No matter what you think the facts remain that gambling causes negative things from a individual level to a community level. It would be great if you could count on everyone to be perfect citizens but thats not the case.

So using your logic we should just open the flood gates because personal responsiblity is all that matters. Every drug, every vice should be open to the public right? There are reason some things are controlled and restricted, because they cause more harm than good. This is the case with gambling.
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So your idea is just to turn a blind eye to the problems it causes and just rely on personal accountability. No matter what you think the facts remain that gambling causes negative things from a individual level to a community level. It would be great if you could count on everyone to be perfect citizens but thats not the case.

So using your logic we should just open the flood gates because personal responsiblity is all that matters. Every drug, every vice should be open to the public right? There are reason some things are controlled and restricted, because they cause more harm than good. This is the case with gambling.

How fucking brain dead are you? You simply cant get rid of every thing in the world that normal people do because losers like you and your father want an excuse for being a moron.

Yes every drug should be open to the public. Every vice.

And if you try to pull well how about pedophilia or some other horsehit where a loser like you would be a predator on someone who does not Choose to be a loser you can go eat a bullet.

Waaaa Waaaa society let my stepfather down by not outlawing his stupidity waaaa waaaa
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How fucking brain dead are you? You simply cant get rid of every thing in the world that normal people do because losers like you and your father want an excuse for being a moron.

Yes every drug should be open to the public. Every vice.

And if you try to pull well how about pedophilia or some other horsehit where a loser like you would be a predator on someone who does not Choose to be a loser you can go eat a bullet.

Waaaa Waaaa society let my stepfather down by not outlawing his stupidity waaaa waaaa

LOL how fucking stupid can one person be. What kind of sheltered fucking fantasy world do you live in. People are irresponsible, make bad decisions etc. My stepfather had his problems he is REPRESENTITIVE of what can happen.

Sure it would be nice if you could count on everyone to use drugs in a responsible manner, gamble responsibly, drink responsibly etc BUT YOU CANT. Why dont you understand this? If you are making policy decisions you HAVE to take into account those who will be effected by it. Im sure the goverment could produce crack pretty cheap and tax the hell out of it and give that money to education, but does that make it a good idea to do it, fuck no. Sure tons of people could use crack and be fine with it, but I dont want a bunch of crackheads who happen to be unable to control running around and we all have to suffer the consequences.

Go back to your fantasy world until you can realize policy effects people other then your "ideal 100% self responsible makes no bad decisions" made up person."
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Lol Figment you just are not understanding the angle he is approaching this from. He is not saying that restricting nothing would make the world into a perfect place, I think(correct me if I am wrong Morlock) he is saying that making everything available will cause fuck ups to eliminate themselves from the population faster, and that that is a good thing.

I agree with him, we just need to make things dangerous enough that a majority of the people who prove themselves to be weak eliminate themselves before they reproduce or it does no real good to our species, just our generation.
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LOL how fucking stupid can one person be. What kind of sheltered fucking fantasy world do you live in. People are irresponsible, make bad decisions etc. My stepfather had his problems he is REPRESENTITIVE of what can happen.

Sure it would be nice if you could count on everyone to use drugs in a responsible manner, gamble responsibly, drink responsibly etc BUT YOU CANT. Why dont you understand this? If you are making policy decisions you HAVE to take into account those who will be effected by it. Im sure the goverment could produce crack pretty cheap and tax the hell out of it and give that money to education, but does that make it a good idea to do it, fuck no. Sure tons of people could use crack and be fine with it, but I dont want a bunch of crackheads who happen to be unable to control running around and we all have to suffer the consequences.

Go back to your fantasy world until you can realize policy effects people other then your "ideal 100% self responsible makes no bad decisions" made up person."
People drop out of school and quit their jobs to play MMORPGs.... Outlaw MMORPGS Now!

Sure lots of people play it without any problem or destroying their lives, but we have to protect those people who can't restrain themselves and their families. Outlaw it or tax it or something!!!?!
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Lol Figment you just are not understanding the angle he is approaching this from. He is not saying that restricting nothing would make the world into a perfect place, I think(correct me if I am wrong Morlock) he is saying that making everything available will cause fuck ups to eliminate themselves from the population faster, and that that is a good thing.

I agree with him, we just need to make things dangerous enough that a majority of the people who prove themselves to be weak eliminate themselves before they reproduce or it does no real good to our species, just our generation.

That darwin aspect is just a beneficial side effect

The_Ravens post is what I have been trying to hammer home. People DIE playing MMO's Couples leave their infant home to DIE while they play WOW.

what pastime are YOU wiling to give up Figment? Some guy went into a titty bar and left his kid in the car for hours till someone noticed the screaming FROSTBITTEN child. Outlaw Tits NOW.

Figment you fucking IMBECILE, are you just insensitive to what harm World of Warcraft is causing to the PEOPLE!!??!?!? Stop Video Games No one benefits from WOW except the Server Owners!!!
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