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It doesn't. Not one person has said "OMG! Terrorists cut the guys head off! Let's abuse the prisoners. It's justified now!"
Now I refer you to the search button. I can't speak for the real world, but many people here had that reaction.

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I meant what does what Saddam did have to do with the question I posed. "Name one confirmed ... example of US intrests staging the murder of a US citizen and publicising it as being done by someone else for their supposed benefit."
They weren't US citizens, they were Kuwaiti babies, but the point is that never happened and the fact you don't seem keen to that is indicative of the effect publicity can have.

You wanted one confirmed, non-tinfoil example of the US staging an atrocity for its benefit. I gave you one. I understand that in my story no one actually died, whereas Berg is very dead, but the "event" generated massive public support for war nonetheless.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:22 AM möbiustrip is offline  
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whats unusual about terrists having air jordans?

theyre westernizing just like every other culture in the world
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:23 AM möbiustrip is offline  
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:25 AM Fenneth is offline  
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I tried googling "post mortem blood." I'm just observing it's an excellent point if you can substantiate it.
Try "Livor Mortis". Livor Mortis begins immediatly and the majority of blood will drain from the head and neck into the torso very quickly due to the massive amount of free bloodflow allowed by the arteries that serve the brain. I suggest looking for hanging because it was a widely used method of execution here in the US and it deals with what happens to an upright body in death. In hanging victims the face would show signs of lividity (Livor Mortis) within minutes of death and for a long time was used by executioners to pronounce and confirm death as it is very visible and doesn't require physical examination.
Old 05-14-2004, 03:31 AM Ecwfrk is offline  
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They weren't US citizens, they were Kuwaiti babies, but the point is that never happened and the fact you don't seem keen to that is indicative of the effect publicity can have.
You wanted one confirmed, non-tinfoil example of the US staging an atrocity for its benefit. I gave you one. I understand that in my story no one actually died, whereas Berg is very dead, but the "event" generated massive public support for war nonetheless.
We haven't found any WMD either.
Lying to villify someone is common. Beheading American Citizens to do it is not.
I didn't ask for where we lied about an atrocity that never happened but where we actually performed the attrocity and then lied about who did it.
Old 05-14-2004, 03:40 AM Ecwfrk is offline  
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:42 AM Ecwfrk is offline  
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Try "Livor Mortis". Livor Mortis begins immediatly and the majority of blood will drain from the head and neck into the torso very quickly due to the massive amount of free bloodflow allowed by the arteries that serve the brain.
Recognizable at 2-4 hours, says google. I don't recall what timeframe we're talking here.

Lividity shouldn't be observable, since all we can see are his face and hands. A hanged man still has a lot of blood in his head, no?
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:46 AM möbiustrip is offline  
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let me guess, you read www.infowars.com hourly.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:51 AM ToiletDuck is offline  
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We haven't found any WMD either.
Lying to villify someone is common. Beheading American Citizens to do it is not.
I didn't ask for where we lied about an atrocity that never happened but where we actually performed the attrocity and then lied about who did it.
I took "staging the murder" as faking it. I see now you meant something a little different. I don't put WMD claims on the same level as inventing a monstrosity.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:53 AM möbiustrip is offline  
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:53 AM ToiletDuck is offline  
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let me guess, you read www.infowars.com hourly.
sup ToiletDuck. I'm just talking here.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:53 AM möbiustrip is offline  
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14) The video time is in US Military English. What the hell?

The video time is normal what is used around the world. What the ell do you expect to be used? Some US Am and PM crap? its 14:39 right now.
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Old 05-14-2004, 04:40 AM HWM is offline  
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Old 05-14-2004, 05:11 AM genius is offline  
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Hey about the whole Bin Laden thing. . . . Yes I think that Osama "E" is a fake and that he was sposed to be! Its not uncommon for high ranking political figureheads to have a double or a look alike. To avoid assination and considering what Bin Laden just did/was confessing to it would make sense for him to send the fake and not actually do it himself. BTW my g/f first mentioned that to me but I would thought of it myself. . . eventually
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