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Paid him for his 160gb hard drive 6-26. Lied about shipping it the following monday. does not ship the item until almost TWO weeks before i filed a complaint with paypal. Emails me and threatens me with a bunch of crap. here are the emails and AIM logs

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Since when is 12 days 2 weeks? Your right, I just shipped it out
today. Im glad you have my info, please give me a call on my cell at
954-536-5158 and we can talk.

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:19:13 -0700, Vold <vold@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Correction, it's been 12 days since i've paid. since when does it take
> almost 2 weeks to recieve a package you supposedly shipped? i will cancel
> the complaint if i ever recieve it. oh and you really think usps will not
> deliver a package because some1 calls in and tells them not to? are you that
> stupid? also see that youve wasted $4 on providing a fake ups tracking
> number gj. and remember, i have your phone number and address.
> Thanks,
> Danny
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert ODowd" <rodowd@gmail.com>
> To: "Vold" <vold@adelphia.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:58 PM
> Subject: Re: hard drive
> 
> > Are you fucking retarded? You paid 11 days ago, and you file a
> > complaint because you haven't gotten the package yet? I will be
> > calling usps to ensure that they dont deliver it, and good luck
> > getting a refund through paypal.
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:33:34 -0400, Robert ODowd <rodowd@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I went away for the weekend. My browser always has genmay open. You
> > > need to chill out. It was sent usps ground, no tracking
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:05:26 -0700, Vold <vold@adelphia.net> wrote:
> > > > hello????
> > > > why arent you responding to me emails. ive seen youve been on genmay
> just
> > > > today. i still havent recieved the hard drive yet. give me a tracking
> number
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Danny
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Robert ODowd" <rodowd@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Vold" <vold@adelphia.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: hard drive
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry, but I've already used the payment for something. I will send
> > > > > out the HD tommorow.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:25:40 -0700, Vold <vold@adelphia.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hey robert,
> > > > > > did you recieve my payment? i was wondering if you can refund it
> back? i
> > > > > > have to fix my car and i don't have enough money. im sorry for
> this but
> > > > if
> > > > > > it is possible asap.
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Danny
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Robert ODowd" <rodowd@gmail.com>
> > > > > > To: "Vold" <vold@adelphia.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:02 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: hard drive
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Heat feedback: http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=6026
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ebay feedback under "Agentx39"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4801 SW 202 Ave
> > > > > > > SW Ranches, FL 33332
> > > > > > > (954)536-5158
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:55:54 -0700, Vold <vold@adelphia.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > alright. before i send you the payment. plz let me know your
> address
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > phone# for my security purposes. thx
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Danny
> > > > > > > >
here is the aim log with a bunch where he threatens me and i just own him in every excuse he gives

EndustrialSony (6:00:23 PM): Hi Danny
kailaindustries (6:00:30 PM): yes.
EndustrialSony (6:00:47 PM): Why havent you called me yet?
kailaindustries (6:00:56 PM): call who
EndustrialSony (6:01:05 PM): Robert
kailaindustries (6:01:12 PM): ah
kailaindustries (6:01:16 PM): i have no need to yet.
EndustrialSony (6:01:52 PM): To be honest though, I just didnt have the time to send it until today
kailaindustries (6:02:12 PM): ...
kailaindustries (6:02:32 PM): then you shouldnt have put it up for sale
kailaindustries (6:02:53 PM): until you could ship it
EndustrialSony (6:03:03 PM): Well, its on its way now
EndustrialSony (6:03:43 PM): So please make sure to cancel the complaint once you get it, or else both or out paypal accounts will probably become frozen
kailaindustries (6:04:43 PM): maybe
kailaindustries (6:04:50 PM): in a few weeks i will
kailaindustries (6:04:59 PM): when i have the time
EndustrialSony (6:09:02 PM): lol, fine then. I will just file the false complaint form with paypal now then, as well as report you to adelphia, and report all of your domains to Network Solutions for having false whois information
EndustrialSony (6:09:27 PM): I will also be posting your name to every troll list on the net
EndustrialSony (6:09:39 PM): For filing a fake paypal complaint to get a refund
kailaindustries (6:09:44 PM): because i was the person who lied about shipping?
kailaindustries (6:09:51 PM): go ahead
kailaindustries (6:10:06 PM): ive bought and sold to many people on anandtech
kailaindustries (6:10:07 PM): and genmay
kailaindustries (6:10:10 PM): see who they believe
kailaindustries (6:10:37 PM): ill see that you get banned from genmay also
EndustrialSony (6:10:38 PM): Im not the one whos lying, I gave you a tracking number for it
EndustrialSony (6:10:43 PM): oh, ok
EndustrialSony (6:10:46 PM): you do that
EndustrialSony (6:11:44 PM): And why would he ban me? Did I troll you? NO. I sent you the freaking tracking number retard. Its not my fault you're impatient and couldnt wait 11 days for a package
kailaindustries (6:11:58 PM): 12 days plus you lied about shipping
kailaindustries (6:12:06 PM): 12+ how many days it takes to ship here
kailaindustries (6:12:20 PM): at the very least you will get banned from deals and steals
EndustrialSony (6:12:24 PM): You need to learn to count
kailaindustries (6:12:38 PM): i paid you on 6-26
kailaindustries (6:12:45 PM): 31 days in june
kailaindustries (6:12:56 PM): 5+8=?
kailaindustries (6:13:04 PM): ill let you figure that out
kailaindustries (6:13:05 PM): k
EndustrialSony (6:14:08 PM): Well, you paid me at night on the 26th, I dont know how I would have shipped it at 8PM. Today is the 8th, and I shipped it. Therefore, 11 days between the time you paid and when I shipped it
kailaindustries (6:14:57 PM): and btw there is no such thing as a false complaint form
EndustrialSony (6:15:49 PM): Try calling paypal, there is. You do it over the phone
kailaindustries (6:16:47 PM): you go and do that then
kailaindustries (6:16:56 PM): the tracking number only shows billed
kailaindustries (6:17:01 PM): no address
kailaindustries (6:17:09 PM): doesnt say where it will ship to
kailaindustries (6:17:15 PM): for all i know
kailaindustries (6:17:24 PM): you just printed the slip out
kailaindustries (6:17:35 PM): i bet you didnt even ship it yet
EndustrialSony (6:17:40 PM): http://iship.com/track/trk.asp?t=***
EndustrialSony (6:18:19 PM): NOTE: Tracking information may not be available until several hours
after the carrier picks up the packages. Carriers normally pick up
in the late afternoon.

kailaindustries (6:18:36 PM): what is your point?
kailaindustries (6:19:06 PM): wow
EndustrialSony (6:19:06 PM): That I sent you your fucking package, but you refuse to cancel the complaint, which makes YOU the TROLL
kailaindustries (6:19:12 PM): expected recieve
kailaindustries (6:19:15 PM): july 15th
kailaindustries (6:19:41 PM): the tracking doesnt even say where it is shipped to
EndustrialSony (6:19:55 PM): RECIPIENT
Danny ***
--
RO, CA 91-3260 US

kailaindustries (6:20:31 PM): nowhere in that link does it say that
kailaindustries (6:20:46 PM): so 20 days to recieve some harddrive?
kailaindustries (6:21:03 PM): you should have just gave me my money back
kailaindustries (6:21:41 PM): Date:
Jun. 26, 2004
Time:
15:05:15 PDT
Status:
Completed

kailaindustries (6:21:50 PM): paid 3:05 pm
EndustrialSony (6:21:59 PM): You are in California buddy
EndustrialSony (6:22:05 PM): im in Florida
kailaindustries (6:22:11 PM): what is your point?
EndustrialSony (6:22:22 PM): That is 6:00 PM here
kailaindustries (6:22:28 PM): yet you said 8:00
EndustrialSony (6:22:53 PM): I was making the point that I couldnt ship it that day
kailaindustries (6:22:59 PM): why not?
kailaindustries (6:23:06 PM): im sure there are usps mailboxes everywhere
kailaindustries (6:23:20 PM): 20 days to potentially recieve a harddrive?
kailaindustries (6:23:34 PM): im sure no one will buy from yo uagain
kailaindustries (6:23:58 PM): why couldnt you ship it the next day?
kailaindustries (6:24:03 PM): or the day after that?

EndustrialSony (6:24:04 PM): Whether or not you buy from me again I really dont care, but I sent you the package so now please cancel the complaint
kailaindustries (6:24:22 PM): or why dont you take the 10 minutes it takes and ship it?
kailaindustries (6:24:26 PM): instead of browsing genmay
kailaindustries (6:24:45 PM): why dont you read the stickies in deals and steals?
kailaindustries (6:24:56 PM): dont have a car? have usps come pick up your package at your door
kailaindustries (6:25:12 PM): there is no reason why it should take 20 days
kailaindustries (6:25:17 PM): plus lieing about it
EndustrialSony (6:25:30 PM): I wasnt even in town
EndustrialSony (6:25:38 PM): Like I said in my email, I went away
kailaindustries (6:25:43 PM): wow even more excuses
EndustrialSony (6:26:05 PM): Whatever, the point is that you wont cancel the complaint
EndustrialSony (6:26:09 PM): Which is fraud
kailaindustries (6:26:18 PM): why should i cancel it?
kailaindustries (6:26:30 PM): did i recieve the harddrive?
EndustrialSony (6:26:31 PM): Because I sent the package
kailaindustries (6:26:38 PM): does the tracking show my address?
kailaindustries (6:26:43 PM): are you lieing about that too?
EndustrialSony (6:26:48 PM): Tracking never shows and actual address
kailaindustries (6:26:49 PM): show me where it says my name
EndustrialSony (6:26:52 PM): Just the city
kailaindustries (6:26:53 PM): it shows the city
kailaindustries (6:26:58 PM): where does it say that?
EndustrialSony (6:27:06 PM): Tracking never says a name either
kailaindustries (6:27:13 PM): show me the city
EndustrialSony (6:31:35 PM): I sent you the email they sent me
kailaindustries (6:32:49 PM): i will possibly cancel the complaint but you will get banned from [m] for being a troll
EndustrialSony (6:33:41 PM): Just please cancel the complait as I have shipped the package. I will wait to hear from Mix if he decides to ban me
kailaindustries (6:33:56 PM): i told you already
kailaindustries (6:34:12 PM): possibly when i recieve the harddrive?
kailaindustries (6:34:23 PM): why dont you have any patience?
kailaindustries (6:34:33 PM): i will have waited 20 days
kailaindustries (6:34:40 PM): i think you can wait that long
EndustrialSony (6:35:35 PM): You obviously havent dealt with paypal complaints much. You have 5 days to cancel it, or else you will no longer be able to. THEY will have to resolve it, which basicly means "Freeze both accounts and all moneys"
EndustrialSony (6:36:24 PM): The buyer may elect to cancel the complaint after reviewing this information. If the buyer chooses not to cancel the complaint, PayPal will review the information to see if you are protected under our Seller Protection Policy.

The buyer is allowed 5 days to review the information. If the buyer does not cancel this complaint within 5 days (by Jul. 13, 2004), we will resume our investigation.

kailaindustries (6:36:53 PM): i can see why you have dealt with a lot of complaints
kailaindustries (6:37:09 PM): i have nothing to worry about
EndustrialSony (6:37:10 PM): I've dealt with 3, and I filed 2 of them
kailaindustries (6:37:19 PM): i dont have any money in there anyways
kailaindustries (6:37:42 PM): i will cancel it when i recieve the hard drive
kailaindustries (6:37:54 PM): unluckly for you is over 5 days
EndustrialSony (6:38:05 PM): alright then. Just please try to cancel it as soon as the package arrives. Meanwhile read up on paypalsucks.com and see what happens even if you have no money
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Session concluded at 6:38:31 PM
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EndustrialSony (6:41:30 PM): And one more thing, you can call the ups store tommorow if you want (the number is in the email) and ask them where that tracking # is going. Just speak with LeLe and and mention my name (Robert)
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Session concluded at 6:41:47 PM

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4801 SW 202 Ave
SW Ranches, FL 33332
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he sounds like an asshole. seems like he turns around every mistake he has made and makes it your mistake somehow. thanks for the heads up.
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"I went away for the weekend. My browser always has genmay open."

i'm pretty sure thats
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Yeah that is bull shit because even if you do have genmay open all the time the only way it shows your online is if you change forums or post something.
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Yah...that's BS... It may show you online for a few hours but after that you're not considered online. You have to at least browse. It certainly wouldn't show you as being online everyday.

But it sounds like he'll just say "I never said that...I said I have my browser open while I'm on vacation and refresh the page but I don't check anything...I told you that"
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> > Are you fucking retarded? You paid 11 days ago, and you file a
> > complaint because you haven't gotten the package yet? I will be
> > calling usps to ensure that they dont deliver it, and good luck
> > getting a refund through paypal.
that right there sounds like he's trying to screw you
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Goods sold contracts require goods to be delivered in a timely manner unless provisions state otherwise. Waiting 11 days before he actually ships is not an standard -- and he actually lied to you about it and admitted it. That kind of action is just plain unacceptable. It looks like he has a very clean record before this, too bad he screwed up so bad.

Edit: BTW, there was some friction between you two before he "sent" it, I'd make sure to see the HD is in PERFECT working order with multiple disk tests before (and if) you cancel your complaint. He sounds immature, and he may have done something to the hard drive. Just a heads up.
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Did you finally get your hard drive? I was fucked over once by a guy named Mr. Havok unfortunetly Deals and steals is a "buy at your own risk" forum, but it still have not stop me from buying from members. This guy does sound like hes trying to make excuses for every mistake instead of admitting it. (Thats the first sign of a troll not addmitting thier own mistake). I bought some items form this person and he took full responsibility for it, (it was nothing urgent) so i still left him good heatware because he realize his mistake.

Good luck with your problem.
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Did you finally get your hard drive? I was fucked over once by a guy named Mr. Havok unfortunetly Deals and steals is a "buy at your own risk" forum, but it still have not stop me from buying from members. This guy does sound like hes trying to make excuses for every mistake instead of admitting it. (Thats the first sign of a troll not addmitting thier own mistake). I bought some items form this person and he took full responsibility for it, (it was nothing urgent) so i still left him good heatware because he realize his mistake.

Good luck with your problem.

i havent recieved the hard drive yet. i will on the 15th. i hope it does work because i dont have enough money to buy a new one. and is it true what he says about paypal? That if i dont cancel the complaint, they will freeze the accounts? or is he bsing. because i dont want to cancel it until i know it's working.
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i havent recieved the hard drive yet. i will on the 15th. i hope it does work because i dont have enough money to buy a new one. and is it true what he says about paypal? That if i dont cancel the complaint, they will freeze the accounts? or is he bsing. because i dont want to cancel it until i know it's working.

Paypal is a bunch of cunts. Their solution to everything is usually take everyone's money away and keep it. I honestly think that's how they keep afloat.
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They don't freeze accounts automatically like he said...I've complained about people and I don't think I've ever had my account frozen.
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