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it says right in the article that they're keeping this hush hush
The Op/Ed?

According to the Op/Ed.. It says Taiwanese Ships.. When they're actually sending troops..
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Show me a credible site besides Chinese Propaganda which you love for example USA Today, Washington Times, etc.. Even better... Navy News..
Fuck you! Ive already listed MANY sites that are reputable News agencys including LA times for christ sake. LA times FYI owns the New York Daily news, the Chigago Tribune... I know because I used to work for them! SHOW ME a credible site that says it WONT.
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The Op/Ed?

"Copyright 2004 Los Angeles Times"
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Fuck you! Ive already listed MANY sites that are reputable News agencys including LA times for christ sake. LA times FYI owns the New York Daily news, the Chigago Tribune... I know because I used to work for them! SHOW ME a credible site that says it WONT.
Yet uses words like Neocon, militarist? etc? That's very credible alright..

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neocons
militarists
idealogues

This article is left-wing fearmongering.
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Yet uses words like Neocon, militarist? etc? That's very credible alright..

discrimination based on vocabulary now? what's next
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Yet uses words like Neocon, militarist? etc? That's very credible alright..
Or calling a spade a spade?
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discrimination based on vocabulary now? what's next
I want you to show me.. That... The.. Fleet... is... Performing... off... the... coast... of... china... Based... On... Either.. Military... news... or... Globalsecurity... or.. FAS.. Or... What... not... You... Take... Your... Pick...

Not this fucking biased article which you believe to heart so much..
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I want you to show me.. That... The.. Fleet... is... Performing... off... the... coast... of... china... Based... On... Either.. Military... news... or... Globalsecurity... or.. FAS.. Or... What... not... You... Take... Your... Pick...
L A Times... is... ten... times... the... size of... any...of...your...listed..."news"...organisations ....before...you...take...into...consideration...thier...sus idiaries! "Globalsecurity" (etc)...is...a...web...based..."news"...service...just...bec ause...they...may...not...have...reported...it...does...not. ..mean...it...isnt...happening... LA TIMES...is...a PRINT...media...as WELL..AS web...based.

Now...consider...I ...have...listed...many!... other...sources...and...you...have ...FAILED...to...produce...even...ONE...that...says...contra ry!...and...YOU...want...me...to...provide...YOU...with...MO RE?.... idiot.
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L A Times... is... ten... times... the... size of... any...of...your...listed..."news"...organisations ....before...you...take...into...consideration...thier...sus idiaries! "Globalsecurity" (etc)...is...a...web...based..."news"...service...just...bec ause...they...may...not...have...reported...it...does...not. ..mean...it...isnt...happening... LA TIMES...is...a PRINT...media...as WELL..AS web...based.
Yet.. It can't avoid words that makes it a biased OP/Ed
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I want you to show me.. That... The.. Fleet... is... Performing... off... the... coast... of... china... Based... On... Either.. Military... news... or... Globalsecurity... or.. FAS.. Or... What... not... You... Take... Your... Pick...

Not this fucking biased article which you believe to heart so much..

You believe wholeheartedly that they're completely impartial, but you're fooling yourself
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You believe wholeheartedly that they're completely impartial, but you're fooling yourself
LA Times has in the past being against the Iraqi War with throwing so many articles Bush way as a "Liar" using Joe Wilson as truth when a couple weeks ago he was exposed as a liar by the Senate Report..

John Pike who runs GS is very very neutral.. He always criticizes Bush alot of times in terms of military.. A majority of the time he's right and sometimes he's wrong..
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Yet.. It can't avoid words that makes it a biased OP/Ed
so your trying to say that because it is an Op/Ed, it therefore it simply CANNOT be true, even after YOU FAIL to provide ANYTHING that says it isnt?
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so your trying to say that because it is an Op/Ed, it therefore it simply CANNOT be true, even after YOU FAIL to provide ANYTHING that says it isnt?
Okay let's review idiot..
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Operation Summer Pulse '04
Navy Tests New Operational Construct
Seven Carrier Strike Groups Underway for Exercise “Summer Pulse 04”

The Department of Defense announced today that this summer, simultaneous deployment of seven aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs) will demonstrate the ability of the Navy to provide credible combat power across the globe by operating in five theaters with other U.S., allied, and coalition military forces. “Summer Pulse 04” will be the Navy’s first exercise of its new operational construct, the Fleet Response Plan (FRP). FRP is about new ways of operating, training, manning, and maintaining the fleet that results in increased force readiness and the ability to provide significant combat power to the President in response to a national emergency or crisis.
The article says all in the Pacific right off the coast.. However to the contrary the Truman for example is in the Morocco Area.. Which is on the other side of the world..
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Okay let's review idiot..


The article says all in the Pacific right off the coast.. However to the contrary the Truman for example is in the Morocco Area.. Which is on the other side of the world..

slap a datestamp on that is recent up to a few days and then i'll listen to you
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slap a datestamp on that is recent up to a few days and then i'll listen to you
Okay.. I'll explain this in Layman's Terms for you..

Fast Response Plan - which ships will move away from traditional, regularly scheduled six-month deployments and be prepared to leave as world events demand.

Now.. Let's review.. There are 7 Carriers involved in this with their respecting groups in this.. They are not all in the same area as the article suggest.. They will operate in areas of the world in joint communications.. However.. All the carriers were on a traditional six-month deployment basis with a schedule of where they are going.. Too easy to predict for the enemy.. Their plan is to assemble the carriers at full notice when the Navy demands it..
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The Navy demonstrated its ability to "surge" multiple carriers like this a year ago during the Iraq war, said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, an Alexandria research center on security issues.

However, the Navy wasn't really set up to deploy several carriers at once, so it wasn't easy, he said.

"Now they are demonstrating that they are set up to do it," Pike said. "If anybody anywhere gets any ideas — if North Korea gets frisky or the Red Chinese get too risky— they might have a half-dozen carriers show up on short notice."

This is "a fundamentally different way of deploying aircraft carriers than we had during the 20th century," Pike said.

Typically, a carrier deployed overseas for six months, then was at home for 18 months while sailors went back to school in the Navy and the ship was repaired and overhauled.

Under that arrangement, a carrier was combat-capable only for about six months during a two-year cycle, so generally only two of the stateside carriers could be deployed at a given time, Pike said.
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