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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

Unfortunately, you have no truth to your statements. Therefore you are and should be ridiculed.
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Absurdity passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed, second it is adopted as the One Real Truth by the "specially abled", third it fades into obscurity which it and it's promoters deserve except for occaisional perusal in the Vault Of Mayhem..

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you've obviously never heard of sunburn missiles (aka deadliest anti-ship missile in the world)...the russians sell advanced versions of it to the chinese..

supersonic anti-ship missiles > navy

Radar + CIWS > supersonic anti-ship missiles

Now the super cavitation torps could be a problem if they are operational.
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1. I disagree, are you saying that unless one reports things in an un-Chomsky like manner (One that in no way "damages conservative principles" or agendas) is is to be discarded?

2. Cuba does not have 7 carrier fleets. Thier entire armed forces couldnt scare the Miami dade police deparment!

The cold war happened because of the "threat" from the "other side"... in the piece the author says that China knws it cannot defeat 7 carrier fleets - and it may embark in its own crash research to met our "threat". How can this not be seen as a hostile action by us?

Psst:

Let me give you a little secret. China has tons of cruise missiles that could tear the US carrier force into shreds. Look up "sunburn" on Janes and see for yourself.

If China was really threatened, they would just whip out a few. They have had them for years.
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Radar + CIWS > supersonic anti-ship missiles

Now the super cavitation torps could be a problem if they are operational.

Morelock:

The CIWS can't pick up a sunburn missile. That has been confirmed by Navy Brass several times.
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The CIWS can't pick up a sunburn missile. That has been confirmed by Navy Brass several times.

haha nice pwnage of morelock
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haha nice pwnage of morelock

It wasn't intentional.

I'm just pointing out why China does not see the stationing of a shitload of carrier task forces near them to be a threat.

If it really was a threat, they could bring the size down real quick.
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The CIWS can't pick up a sunburn missile. That has been confirmed by Navy Brass several times.

bummer if true.
Of course I wonder what the Navy Brass would be doing telling enemies that we can not stop their weaponry. Seems like that would be burn before reading classified. Leavenworth for life if you leaked it. Unless you were directed to for disinformation purposes.
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bummer if true.
Of course I wonder what the Navy Brass would be doing telling enemies that we can not stop their weaponry. Seems like that would be burn before reading classified. Leavenworth for life if you leaked it. Unless you were directed to for disinformation purposes.

It ain't disinformation. It was yet another Clinton Administration fuckup.

Of course, they probably have other countermeasures by now. But CIWS ain't one of them.
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It ain't disinformation. It was yet another Clinton Administration fuckup.

Of course, they probably have other countermeasures by now. But CIWS ain't one of them.

that's assuming a lot, nukes have been around for over 50 years and the US has the largest military budget in the world

THEREFORE

[sarcasm]
they probably have countermeasures for it by now
[/sarcasm]

and don't give me that starwars missile defense
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bummer if true.
Of course I wonder what the Navy Brass would be doing telling enemies that we can not stop their weaponry. Seems like that would be burn before reading classified. Leavenworth for life if you leaked it. Unless you were directed to for disinformation purposes.

the mk 15 phalanx has a range of a mile. do the math to figure out how long it takes to travel a mile at mach 3 and tell me how many shells the phalanx can fire in that time.
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blah, misunderstood you onigami

anyways

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=22703

"The U.S. Navy has nothing that can stop it," professor June Teuffel told the House Armed Services Committee last July.
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It ain't disinformation. It was yet another Clinton Administration fuckup.

Of course, they probably have other countermeasures by now. But CIWS ain't one of them.


Flight Altitude 20 meters above sea level hmm a little higher than 9 feet but this could be an older one. original date of site is 95 with a 99 last update.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...ton-07-21.html

This says that we have countermeasures effective to a degree but they are being phased out at the time. It's from 2000. Except for the AGEIS.


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/mi...E=Aug+13,+2003

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/966345/posts

poor sunburn Foiled Again
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that's assuming a lot, nukes have been around for over 50 years and the US has the largest military budget in the world

THEREFORE

[sarcasm]
they probably have countermeasures for it by now
[/sarcasm]

and don't give me that starwars missile defense

Ever heard of ECM causing a missile to go off target? Don't have to shoot it down then, just watch it fly by.
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